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Posted: 24 April 2008 08:06 AM   [ Ignore ]
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i don’t know if this thred exists or not---but i have installed this about 15 months ago,,and i save about 40.00 per month off the electric bill--i have kept close records--i just thought i would let you guys know--it did work for me---pat--

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Posted: 24 April 2008 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I’ve been thinking of putting one of these on my house.  I’ve spoken to a few electrical engineers who all say that it is legit, not snake oil.  The actual savings vary depending on the type and amount of electric motors that you have on your home’s circuit.  For folks with big forced-air blower motors and air conditioning compressors and the like, the savings can be large.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 01:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I installed one last month and have been tracking closely.  Unfortunately, I have not see much in the way of reduction yet, but am looking forward to seeing what happens in the summer when the A/C is running.  Needless to say I do not have too many motors.

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Posted: 24 April 2008 07:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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i must also say that i was told the closer you live to industry the more you save---so if you live on the outskirts of town --you don’t save as much,,,something about the grid fluctuations,that industry causes,,i live 1000 ft or so from a large grocerie store and the center of town,,

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Posted: 24 April 2008 08:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I’m very interested in this, if others have done so please post your experience. I also noticed that they do solar, and on their rebate chart it says ‘free’ for MN. MSG, you still out there, thoughts?

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Posted: 24 April 2008 10:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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There was some discussion of these things in this thread:

http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/13519/

My offer still stands: If someone wants to send me one, I have the instrumentation to check it out.

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Posted: 25 April 2008 10:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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all i can say is IT WORKS---pat

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Posted: 13 May 2008 01:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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So far have been running for about 1 month and have seen minimal impact from the unit.  Will see what the summer brings.  Hopefully there will be more impact on the usage.

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Posted: 13 May 2008 09:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I am going to have a hard time believing any claims on these things unless they are set up in a lab.  Your energy consumption is going to vary greatly from month to month depending on the weather and personal use habits.  Product testimonials are the easiest way to sell something and the hardest to disprove.

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Posted: 14 May 2008 07:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Accoring to their FAQ, I would not benefit from thier product.  I don’t have an air conditioner, only one fridge/freezer, appliances are energy star rated, house is too small, no forced hot air. 

They clain whole house surge protection as a benefit of using this product, which alone could be worht the cost of admission...but without a written surge protection guarantee and an assiciated insurance policy that covers damaged equipment replacement cost their clain of surge protection is worthless in my opinion.

Its an interesting enough product that I’d like to see independant lab test as well.  Unfortunately we are going to see more and more snake oil products coming onto the market over the coming months and years, all claiming to save massive amounts of electricity, heating oil, gasoline and whatever else has a spiking price point.  Buyer beware!

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Posted: 14 May 2008 09:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Accoring to their FAQ, I would not benefit from thier product.  I don’t have an air conditioner, only one fridge/freezer, appliances are energy star rated, house is too small, no forced hot air. 

They clain whole house surge protection as a benefit of using this product, which alone could be worht the cost of admission...but without a written surge protection guarantee and an assiciated insurance policy that covers damaged equipment replacement cost their clain of surge protection is worthless in my opinion.

Its an interesting enough product that I’d like to see independant lab test as well.  Unfortunately we are going to see more and more snake oil products coming onto the market over the coming months and years, all claiming to save massive amounts of electricity, heating oil, gasoline and whatever else has a spiking price point.  Buyer beware!

I’m in the same boat, no central A/C, I have window shakers which weren’t even used last summer… Small house, one fridge… My appliances are probably not energy star rated but I only do a load of laundry every other week and I air dry.  My electric bill each month is only ~$20 each month anyway..

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Posted: 14 May 2008 11:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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For most this probably is not worth the investment. 

http://powerelectronics.com/power_management/motor_power_management/power-factor-correction-0507/

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Posted: 15 May 2008 04:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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DMM - 14 May 2008 11:32 PM

For most this probably is not worth the investment. 

http://powerelectronics.com/power_management/motor_power_management/power-factor-correction-0507/

Using the numbers in this article, the average 3 ton A/c unit will save about 10 watts of power or about $1-2 per year.  We’ll all be dead and gone before it pays for itself.

I really don’t like the claims of surge protection as this effect will be very mild compared to a real surge protector using MOVs.  You could buy a lot of real surge protectors for $300 and be better off.  You could also buy a LOT of CFLs for $300 and save much more…

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Posted: 15 May 2008 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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at one time we thought the world flat-----then we sailed--and now we know-i have it,,i don’t sell it and i know it works---just thought i would let everyone know that it works,,,oh and by the way find someone who owns one on the internet and show the quote where they are unhappy with it,,i could find none,,,and you all know if it was snake oil some owner of it would have said so-just my thoughts---pat

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Posted: 16 May 2008 06:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Can you let us know what you have in your house as far as the types of devices teir website says the product works well with?  Do you have forced hot air heat and air conditioning for example?  Their FAQ lists about a dozen line items that they say will make the system pay off for an owner and if you have any 2 of them you might want to consider it. 

Have you done any other things that might offset your energy costs?  New cfl bulbs, chage supplier, etc.?

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Posted: 16 May 2008 01:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I have a 2 ton AC, a ref, a freezer, a well pump, and pond pump. As well as a elec dryer (but I know it won’t help with that too much).  So far I am seeing a consilation of the usage, where I would have some days that used 20 kW and some days that used 60 kW but most were at 40kW, I am seeing less of the 60 kW days but more of the 40kW days.  So I guess you could say that it is lowering my usage, but not by the amount that they advertise.  Am waiting to see what happens with the A/C as I have not run that beast ye this year.

Just my .02.

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