I have been checking watching and searching this site for opinions on the 2 mentioned units and have found some information, much of it is from last year, so I thought a new post, as I am going to make a purchase soon, would be very helpful to us.
Our home is 2200 sq/ft (not including the unfinished basement). It is poorly insulated. Last winter, we burned dang near 1200 gallons of oil. (ouch) We have a very large fireplace and will be putting one of these 2 inserts in it, it measures: 48Wx31Hx24D.
I dont know much about inserts, but I did heat most of our old house with a woodstove, and enjoyed it.
One dealer has the Summit for $2395
Another dealer has the 5100i for $2869 plus $226 fot the oversized surround.
I havent looked at either insert or negotiated price, we are really just getting started on this and I have no idea what I am doing. I am not worried about spending more money upfront, if its the ‘better’ insert for our application, but on the same hand, I dont want to spend money I dont need to. Heating the house is the main goal.
Thanks again for any help.
Ray
I’ve decided on a Quadrafire 4100-I insert, the 5100-I looks similar but has more output, enough for your needs as I read your post. I don’t know the Summit, but I may have considered it along with a few other brands when I landed on the Quadrafire, a 3100-I first, then “upgraded” to the 4100-I for looks. For some reason the 3100-I is the cleanest burning of the three models mentioned here.
Quadrafire does not use a catalyst, good point I think, don’t know about the Summit. I think you can make a choice on price/looks as both will serve you well from what I’ve read...I’m yet to establish a track record as my first is yet to be installed.
When I was researching stoves, I tried to find a dealer for Pacific Energy and couldn’t find any in Maryland (or PA, for that matter). I would have had to go to New York just to look at them. Made the decision for the Quad a lot more obvious. Have I been mislead?
I took a look on the web at the PE Summit and like the looks. You also note a lower cost for the Summit. I didn’t compare the BTU output/burn-time, those may be key factors for you. I say may, as in my case moving up to the 4100, was not driven by a need for more output/burn-time, it was driven by how my wife saw the looks. I do not plan to heat with it 24/7.
When I was researching stoves, I tried to find a dealer for Pacific Energy and couldn’t find any in Maryland (or PA, for that matter). I would have had to go to New York just to look at them. Made the decision for the Quad a lot more obvious. Have I been mislead?
Chris
no your stove is fine many stoves offer many things… the one they all have in common is to heat...i bought the summit for the price and sq ft i had to heat .. if not i definitely woulda got a hi300 those are some nice looking stoves
You made me look, and yes there is a PE Summit dealer within 30 miles of my home. I didn’t get over there to look, now as I’ve almost signed for the Quad maybe I don’t want to look
I am also guilty of pushing my neighbor toward a Quad, in their case a 5100-I the the subject of this thread. They too were offered 10% off list price as the dealer had one in stock, as does he for the 4100. This isn’t a big discount, but gets the price closer to the price quoted for the Summit in this post.
Another thing I like about Quadrafire is it is a US company, and I understand builds all the stoves and inserts in Washington State. I suppose they get parts from China, it would be too much to hope that the parts too are made in the US. I have no idea what the “roots” of the PE is, sound US-like.
When I was researching stoves, I tried to find a dealer for Pacific Energy and couldn’t find any in Maryland (or PA, for that matter). I would have had to go to New York just to look at them. Made the decision for the Quad a lot more obvious. Have I been mislead?
Chris
no your stove is fine many stoves offer many things… the one they all have in common is to heat...i bought the summit for the price and sq ft i had to heat .. if not i definitely woulda got a hi300 those are some nice looking stoves
No, I meant mislead about the dealer presence on the east coast. I couldn’t find any around here! Everone sells Quad, VC, Harman, etc, but I couldn’t find a PE dealer to save what’s left of my soul…
The PE sure looks like a nice stove and certainly has its followers here on Hearth.
You made me look, and yes there is a PE Summit dealer within 30 miles of my home. I didn’t get over there to look, now as I’ve almost signed for the Quad maybe I don’t want to look
I am also guilty of pushing my neighbor toward a Quad, in their case a 5100-I the the subject of this thread. They too were offered 10% off list price as the dealer had one in stock, as does he for the 4100. This isn’t a big discount, but gets the price closer to the price quoted for the Summit in this post.
Another thing I like about Quadrafire is it is a US company, and I understand builds all the stoves and inserts in Washington State. I suppose they get parts from China, it would be too much to hope that the parts too are made in the US. I have no idea what the “roots” of the PE is, sound US-like.
pe is in canada i believe
but if you like the 5100 buy it its your money..get what you like..regardless you will be happy
ray
one thing to consider that is not talked about on here much is blower noise. i have a mid 90’s earth stove and love it, except for the noise. if you’re able, make sure you compare the noise levels of both.
bruce
Yes, a multi-speed fan is essential, and it is nice to have it thermostatically controlled, i.e., shuts off when the stove cools (such as an overnight burn). The 5100 has that, I believe, I know the 4100 Quad does.
Thanks for all the help and suggestions. We are going to look at both of them this weekend. The Summit salesperson is a one man show and has been VERY helpful over the phone. He is pretty sure that after I see his instore demo, my decision will be easy. He said the unit will be burning when I get there and he will show me how easy it is to operate. I will pay close attention to the blower noise as well.
Not to take anything away from the 5100i sales person, but he is not nearly as freindly or helpful with information, and I seriously doubt he will heve the unit in operation for us. The one benfiit there...they offer to install it for an additional price. But I am fairly handy and have a freind in the ‘home construction bizz’, I cant imagine we couldnt get it in and line the chimney without a whole lot of trouble.
Sounds like the Summit dealer is “hungry”, that’s the way we like um, buyer’s market. Not sure why the Q-dealer is less interested.
I consider myself lucky if I can even find a unit “on the floor” to look at, never mind one in operation. This thread has encouraged me to call the nearest PE dealer, I asked do you have a Summit on the floor I can look at, the person said the boss would have to call me back...doesn’t sound good for seeing one, again never mind seeing one in operation.
pe is in canada i believe
but if you like the 5100 buy it its your money..get what you like..regardless you will be happy
The summit is manufactured about 10 miles from my home. Good product,would have bought one myself but it wouldn`t fit. I was an inch too shy on the width in my fireplace opening.
