Hearth.com Home - The leading source of information on fireplaces, wood stoves, gas stoves, chimneys and pellet stoves

 

.... ...Or, Search entire Hearth.com Site by clicking here......

   
 
Cast iron vs. Steel.  Observations from a local RI sweep…
Posted: 12 May 2008 11:39 PM   [ Ignore ]
Really Hot
Avatar
RankRankRank
Lincoln, RI
Total Posts:  47
Joined  2008-04-28

This is from the site of a local chimney sweep who also sells Country Stoves and PE.  Interesting commentary on cast iron vs. steel.

Moderators or others with experience please advise.

Thanks.

http://www.stoveguide.net/

Edit:  There is a similar post in early april that addresses this.  Should have looked before I asked...I guess I am becoming like my wife!

 Signature 

“One good thing about music.  When it hits you feel no pain.” - Bob Marley
Jotul C550

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 12:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
Moderator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
South Puget Sound, WA
Total Posts:  8305
Joined  2005-11-18

There are too many marketing falsehoods on this site to take it seriously. It does a disservice to the industry. There are many misstatements and half-truths here that make it hard to know what is true.

If you are asking about line 3, I would say this is pure BS. The site seems geared towards promoting Country stoves which are not bad stoves at all, but that is lost in all the marketing BS. For example: “Certain stoves, such as the ‘Country’ stove line, by Lennox, are designed to hold up for life with repeated over firing.” Hmm, and just why are there multiple warnings in their manuals to avoid overfiring the stove? Oh yeah, then there is this caveat in the manual too: “Damage caused from over-firing is not covered under the manufacturer’s limited warranty.” This guy has more hot air than a popcorn popper.

 Signature 

PE Alderlea T6

“When you get to a fork in the road, take it!”
- Yogi Berra

and “When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it’s time to pause and reflect.”
- Mark Twain -

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
Master of Fire
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Shokan, NY
Total Posts:  652
Joined  2005-11-21
gibson - 12 May 2008 11:39 PM

This is from the site of a local chimney sweep who also sells Country Stoves and PE.  Interesting commentary on cast iron vs. steel.

Moderators or others with experience please advise.

Thanks.

http://www.stoveguide.net/

Edit:  There is a similar post in early april that addresses this.  Should have looked before I asked...I guess I am becoming like my wife!

Well, gibson, what do you think? Did he convince you to avoid cast iron? Do you think his guide was comprehensive? Or, do you still have doubts? What about this guide doesn’t quite convince you and leaves you skeptical?

Sean

 Signature 

Sean Kennedy
Manager - Hearth Operations
Cracker Mill Hearth & Emporium
http://www.crackermill.com

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
Pyro Extraordinaire
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Bend, Oregon
Total Posts:  1004
Joined  2007-09-30

I hope he’s honest enough to add a link to his own page when he writes paragraph 10.  Rick

 Signature 

Lopi Liberty w/blower in the house, Century Hearth FW240007 in the workshop

Laser/GPS guided, gyro stabilized MagLev CTC maintenance system

“I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it.”

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 04:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
Administrator
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Western Mass.
Total Posts:  6640
Joined  2005-11-16

I always wonder why they make car engines and manifolds out of that inferior material - cast iron!

I guess BS is everywhere.

 Signature 

Craig Issod, Founder Hearth.com - Most widely read Hearth Publication in the Universe
“Earth provides enough to satisfy every man’s need, but not every man’s greed”. Mahatma Gandhi
Main Information Articles - 2200+ Questions and Answers
Popular Articles
Forum Rules/Mission

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
Pyro Extraordinaire
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
madison hgts. va
Total Posts:  1877
Joined  2006-11-13

pretty lousy way to try to do buisness IMHO, paragraphs 3 and 4 are clearly a misrepresentation of products he doesnt sell while boosting his brand. this is somthing i personally detest. if you believe in your product you shouldnt have to trash other brands. its like saying “mine is adequate and theirs isnt” instead of , “mine is a quality product” it doesnt fly with me one second , the names he rattled off to avoid are some of the highest quality brands on the market (and i say that confidently while technically competing with them). basing your arguement on what happens when you overfire a cast unit, its silly , for starters you shouldnt overfire any woodstove and doing so generally means you arent doing somthing right to start with. its like saying “dont buy a certain brand of car cause it wont run as well after you hit a tree with it. but our car can hit trees several times and still go down the road.” i wonder if Lennox would approve of such a lame method of promoting their product line. personally i think the country brand stoves are pretty decent units , have heard good things about them, there shouldnt be a need to brand bash others to sell them.

 Signature 

mike holton
england’s stove works inc.

saving the world, one stove at a time

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 10:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
Really Hot
Avatar
RankRankRank
Lincoln, RI
Total Posts:  47
Joined  2008-04-28
seaken - 13 May 2008 12:30 PM
gibson - 12 May 2008 11:39 PM

This is from the site of a local chimney sweep who also sells Country Stoves and PE.  Interesting commentary on cast iron vs. steel.

Moderators or others with experience please advise.

Thanks.

http://www.stoveguide.net/

Edit:  There is a similar post in early april that addresses this.  Should have looked before I asked...I guess I am becoming like my wife!

Well, gibson, what do you think? Did he convince you to avoid cast iron? Do you think his guide was comprehensive? Or, do you still have doubts? What about this guide doesn’t quite convince you and leaves you skeptical?

Sean

I already had my mind made up when I saw this, I was just shopping the local chimney sweeps to compare installation.  Unfortunately, most of my shopping experience with dealers has been like this guy.  All other wood stoves suck, except the ones they carry.  To answer your question… I am buying the Jotul 550 insert.

 Signature 

“One good thing about music.  When it hits you feel no pain.” - Bob Marley
Jotul C550

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 11:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
Master of Fire
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Shokan, NY
Total Posts:  652
Joined  2005-11-21
gibson - 13 May 2008 10:06 PM


I already had my mind made up when I saw this, I was just shopping the local chimney sweeps to compare installation.  Unfortunately, most of my shopping experience with dealers has been like this guy.  All other wood stoves suck, except the ones they carry.  To answer your question… I am buying the Jotul 550 insert.

That’s quite a shame. I am sorry you had such bad experiences. There are many of us dealers who do not think this is the way to do things. Apparently there are not enough of us to go around. How was your Jotul dealer?

Sean

 Signature 

Sean Kennedy
Manager - Hearth Operations
Cracker Mill Hearth & Emporium
http://www.crackermill.com

Profile
 
 
Posted: 13 May 2008 11:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
Master of Fire
Avatar
RankRankRankRankRank
Shokan, NY
Total Posts:  652
Joined  2005-11-21

I e-mailed this guy and feigned interest in the Country stoves, just to see if he was for real. He did e-mail me back and asked some questions designed to continue the lead process. What a shame that this guy will probably get more business than the mom and pop shop that has no internet savvy at all.

Sean

 Signature 

Sean Kennedy
Manager - Hearth Operations
Cracker Mill Hearth & Emporium
http://www.crackermill.com

Profile