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Posted: 01 May 2008 06:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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I get a lot of ash in my burnpot in a 24 hour period and tried different brands of pellets without much difference between brands. Some just seem to leave more clinkers than others. The original poster of this thread, moto, has the larger burnpot hole on the topside of his pot. For some reason, that just doesn’t seem right to me. Just my $.02.

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Posted: 20 August 2008 11:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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ok, so can someone tell me, on a 2006 25pdv, what should all the settings be if I’m using an external thermostat.

The stove is in my basement and I ran the thermostat to my first floor.

What should the settings be for the bottom 3 buttons and the heat range to gain the maximum heat using a thermostat
Also, the plate inside the hopper, should that be open all the way or closed as far as it will go?

right now they are set to 3,4,1 with heat range on 8 and blower 9 and the plate is closed as far as it will go

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Posted: 21 October 2008 06:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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I have a 2007 model. I was on the phone with Englander more than an operator. My stove still b urns like crap and I have tried everything. They finally got sick of me calling and said there was nothing wrong with it. Funny, my brother has the same stove but a 2005 and loves it. He cant see why mine is junk either.

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Posted: 21 October 2008 08:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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xcr600man - 21 October 2008 06:40 PM

I have a 2007 model. I was on the phone with Englander more than an operator. My stove still b urns like crap and I have tried everything. They finally got sick of me calling and said there was nothing wrong with it. Funny, my brother has the same stove but a 2005 and loves it. He cant see why mine is junk either.

Could you elaborate on burns like crap with some pics or description?

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Posted: 21 October 2008 08:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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uses 40 lbs of bearfoot fuel in 12 hours. Lots of unburned pellets. Air intake is clear, all settings were changed like 5 times while on the phone with support. replaced the exhaust blower twice and it still squeals like a pig, lots of other issues

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Posted: 21 October 2008 08:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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xcr600man - 21 October 2008 08:18 PM

uses 40 lbs of bearfoot fuel in 12 hours. Lots of unburned pellets. Air intake is clear, all settings were changed like 5 times while on the phone with support. replaced the exhaust blower twice and it still squeals like a pig, lots of other issues

Definitely something wrong. With all of those issues I would lean towards a control board problem. On low a 40lb bag of Barefoots lasts about 24hrs in my stove.

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Posted: 21 October 2008 08:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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They sent me a new board too. No change. We think it was put together wrong in the factory on a Friday at 4:59. But they wont hear that

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Posted: 21 October 2008 08:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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There’s really nothing to the stoves. I wonder if there’s a missing weld on it, but you would think that would be easy to spot with smoke or ashes coming out of it.

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Posted: 21 October 2008 09:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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xcr600man - 21 October 2008 06:40 PM

I have a 2007 model. I was on the phone with Englander more than an operator. My stove still b urns like crap and I have tried everything. They finally got sick of me calling and said there was nothing wrong with it. Funny, my brother has the same stove but a 2005 and loves it. He cant see why mine is junk either.

Could you elaborate on burns like crap with some pics or description?

Yes, please post some pics of the burnpot.

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Posted: 21 October 2008 09:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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The holes in your burn pot don’t look right.  Those large side holes are located on the bottom portion of mine.

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Posted: 22 October 2008 03:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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As Mike said, The Holes are correct...I have an ‘07 PDV...With the same hole arrangement...Mine burns fine..no clickers at all. I’ve never changed the factory settings either. Might be your fuel. I burn Agways brand..Don’t know who makes them for them but have have excellent succes… Room fan and burn settings should always match...1 to 1...2 to 2 and so on...Hope this helps..Good Luck

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Posted: 22 October 2008 05:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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Why should the burn and fan settings match? Just wondering what a higher fan setting hurts. Thanks

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Posted: 22 October 2008 05:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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The higher fan setting doesn’t hurt anything, but the manual tells you to match them so people that aren’t so bright don’t turn the feed to 9 and leave the fan on 1. You can see how this could be a bad thing don’t you wink

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Posted: 23 October 2008 06:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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Could there be the chance that if you run your fan on 9 and your heat on say 3, you are actually cooling the heated air?  Just a question as I’m trying to get the most heat out of every pellet burned.

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Posted: 24 October 2008 10:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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EWILT - 23 October 2008 06:33 PM

Could there be the chance that if you run your fan on 9 and your heat on say 3, you are actually cooling the heated air?  Just a question as I’m trying to get the most heat out of every pellet burned.

Eric

I started using a t-stat on mine this month, and since the weather hasn’t been that cold the stove usually idles at a feed rate of one and the fan on nine. The air coming out of the stove is still very warm.

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Posted: 25 October 2008 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Filled the hopper last night at 10pm with the heat range on 1, blower on 4, low fuel feed on 4 and used a whole hopper of fuel before 8am !!!!! the gate in the hopper is closed as far as it will go. no un burned pellets either. What a pc of crap

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Posted: 25 October 2008 11:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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It does sound like you got a lemon. A bag should last about 24hrs on low. What are you’re three bottom buttons set at?

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Posted: 26 October 2008 12:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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Posted: 26 October 2008 12:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 55 ]
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You have the PDV not the PDVC correct? I ask because I have the PDVC, but I believe they use the same control board. The first number controls the amount of pellets being fed when your stove is running in its low settings, 1 and 2. The second number is the combustion air control also when on low. Lowering the first number should slow down the amount of pellets being fed to make a bag last you about 24 hrs.

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Posted: 26 October 2008 12:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 56 ]
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it last 24 hrs on my brothers exact same stove at 4

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Posted: 26 October 2008 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 57 ]
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XCR, I’m not a stove tech but I’ll try to help. This may seem like a silly question but when you say that the plate in the hopper is closed all the way you do mean that you’ve moved it so that the opening over the auger is smaller, right? It really doesn’t make any difference what your brothers stove is set on. Each of these beasts is an individual and no two seem to run exactly the same in different homes. (If they did, we’d all get great results from the same brand of pellets.) Basically what you want to do is to set the low fuel feed to the lowest number that will support a constant burn in your stove. To do this simply lower the number, I’d start with it at 2, and run the stove on 1-1 for at least a half hour while monitoring it to make sure that the flame doesn’t go out. If it goes out with the LFF at 2 set it up to 3 and try again. This may take a little trial and error but it’s not really all that difficult to get right and it should reduce the amount of pellets your stove consumes on the lower heat settings.

You’re not supposed to run the stove with the hopper lid open but I believe that if I were you I’d take almost all the pellets, leaving just a few handfuls, out of the hopper and leave the lid open while I stood there and watched just to make sure that the top auger is only turning on intermittently and not running constantly. Don’t leave the stove unattended with the hopper open! 

If the above suggestions don’t get it fixed then you could do what I did and make a modification to the plate in the hopper. I ended up with some really small pellets last year and closing the plate all the way didn’t make much difference in how fast they poured thru so I took the plate out and used a dremel to make the adjustment slot a little longer so it would close a little more. That did the trick for me but if it hadn’t I’d have taken the plate to a metal shop and had a slightly longer plate made.
I hope some of this helps!  grin

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Posted: 26 October 2008 10:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 58 ]
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Im not a novice. If its 60 degrees out and your in a 10 by 10 room than yes you can have the low fuel feed on 2. I know thats an exaggeration but the object is to have a fire and 2 wont do that

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