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My dad now wants to get a wood stove insert
Posted: 12 June 2008 09:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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stanleyjohn - 12 June 2008 09:49 PM

Well my dad got his regency I2400 delivered today but had a complication.I guess his fireplace isn’t too standard and the installers will need to use some kind of elbow with the flex liner.It seems his flume has a big bend going down making a standard installation impossible.They will be back in a week or so to finish the job.

Not unusual to have to angle through the damper area with an elbow. Saves kinking the liner when you turn it down into the insert. Ca ching. Fifty more bucks.

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Posted: 16 June 2008 09:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Saw my dads new wood stove this weekend and it will be interesting on how they install the ss liner to the top of the insert.The fireplace is very deep!but only about 2 inch clearance on the sides and top with stove in the fireplace.

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Posted: 16 June 2008 09:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Sounds like the insert is too big.

My Quadrafire 4100-I has about 10” clearance on the top and at least 6” on the left and right.  This made it easy to reach in over the top of the insert to connect the liner..can’t envision doing this job with only a couple of inches.

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Posted: 16 June 2008 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Jerry_NJ - 16 June 2008 09:27 PM

Sounds like the insert is too big.

My Quadrafire 4100-I has about 10” clearance on the top and at least 6” on the left and right.  This made it easy to reach in over the top of the insert to connect the liner..can’t envision doing this job with only a couple of inches.

Thanks Jerry! The installer did not say that the install wasn’t going to work!just that they needed to get some extra piece to make the ss liner line up because the flume wasn’t so straight near the bottom.Still cant figure how they plan to do it with so little space to work with.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 08:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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I was at my parents last weekend and saw that the Regency I2400 still hasn’t been installed!dad isn’t too happy.Seems like the dealer has been postponing the installation job!doesn’t look like an easy job.Clarence is tight!around 4” on top and 3” on each side.Unless you got real fat hands you can reach in with the stove pulled out slightly.If need there is a metal plate going across the top of the fireplace opening that could be cut out allowing another 2 to 3 inches clearance.They are supposed to come tomorrow to finish the job!unless they postpone again which will not sit well with my dad.When you buy a item that needs to be delivered and installed!dont do what my dad did!He paid in full.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 09:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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The installer removed the existing damper frame, that gave more space going up from the fireplace firebox.  The old damper opening was just under 6” anyway and had to be made wide enough for the 6” pipe.  The installation is with a flexible 6” liner, one piece to the top. This allowed for connection with the insert pulled out a good 3” to 5”, maybe a little more.  In fact I have pulled the insert out that far after installation to do some more vacuuming in the area where the damper frame was removed, gave me access to more odor residue...I’ve had some problem with odor, this last cleaning seems to have helped.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Sounds like the insert is too big.

My Quadrafire 4100-I has about 10” clearance on the top and at least 6” on the left and right.  This made it easy to reach in over the top of the insert to connect the liner..can’t envision doing this job with only a couple of inches.

Thanks Jerry! The installer did not say that the install wasn’t going to work!just that they needed to get some extra piece to make the ss liner line up because the flume wasn’t so straight near the bottom.Still cant figure how they plan to do it with so little space to work with.

OK here comes a dumb one...Could the part be the optional flue connector kit? I sorta thought that this Regency thing made it possible to secure the liner while working (mostly) from the inside of the stove/insert. Thus overcoming the clearance difficulties a bit.

I once had a strong desire for a Regency H2400, and this was an item that came up. I seem to recall the dealer offering it for $50.

I could be wrong since eventually went with the QF.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 01:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Jerry_NJ - 16 June 2008 09:27 PM

OK here comes a dumb one...Could the part be the optional flue connector kit? I sorta thought that this Regency thing made it possible to secure the liner while working (mostly) from the inside of the stove/insert. Thus overcoming the clearance difficulties a bit.

I once had a strong desire for a Regency H2400, and this was an item that came up. I seem to recall the dealer offering it for $50.

I could be wrong since eventually went with the QF.

You could be right! I will findout once the install is complete.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 08:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Hi Stanley John,

Would you be kind enough to share with me what type of mantle you have on top of the stove in your picture?  My set up is almost just like yours with the square blue stones and raised hearth (my raised hearth portion is capped by brick though).  I may have to remove the wood mantle and replace with a non-combustible one to meet clearance code.  I’m trying to decide what to replace it with - thinking bluestone.  I was hoping to see your fireplace including the mantle - it is very pretty and I like what I can see in your picture!  Thanks if you can!!

PS- I hope your dad’s install gets finished soon and he is happy in the end.  We are considering the exact same insert.  Good Luck!

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Posted: 02 July 2008 09:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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CantAfford$5Oil - 02 July 2008 08:56 PM

Hi Stanley John,

Would you be kind enough to share with me what type of mantle you have on top of the stove in your picture?  My set up is almost just like yours with the square blue stones and raised hearth (my raised hearth portion is capped by brick though).  I may have to remove the wood mantle and replace with a non-combustible one to meet clearance code.  I’m trying to decide what to replace it with - thinking bluestone.  I was hoping to see your fireplace including the mantle - it is very pretty and I like what I can see in your picture!  Thanks if you can!!

PS- I hope your dad’s install gets finished soon and he is happy in the end.  We are considering the exact same insert.  Good Luck!

Here is a before and after pic of my setup.I have a harman insert!dad didn’t get one like mine because of alittle too big for his fireplace.I had plenty of open space for my installation!I have been reading your threads!hope you find what your looking for.I will take a pic of my dads regency I2400 when installation is complete.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 10:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Stan… now I can see your insert better than possible in your avatar, nice looking an large looking too.  How big is the fire box?  Looks like it could be in the 3 cuft range. It also appears from the visible end-irons (or whatever I see through the glass) that your logs go in North South, not East West, the way my old slammer worked.  My quadrafire, in fact all quadrafire inserts require logs go in E/W.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 10:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Jerry_NJ - 02 July 2008 10:00 PM

Stan… now I can see your insert better than possible in your avatar, nice looking an large looking too.  How big is the fire box?  Looks like it could be in the 3 cuft range. It also appears from the visible end-irons (or whatever I see through the glass) that your logs go in North South, not East West, the way my old slammer worked.  My quadrafire, in fact all quadrafire inserts require logs go in E/W.

Hello Jerry! My firebox is 2.6 cuft!Its more wide than deep so i put my logs e/w.The harman is abit different than others!Its considered a downdraft wood stove (Has a after burner in the back instead of tubes on top for the secondary burn.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Stan.. seems I’ve got the jargon wrong/backwards.  N/S must be with the logs pointing in/out of the fireplace and E/W is from left to right side, like most open hearth fireplaces are loaded.  That being the case the Quadrafire inserts are all N/S, not E/W.  Hope I remember this time, thanks.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Stanleyjohn:
Your room setup is similar to what mine will be.  How comfortable is it to hang out in that room and watch TV with the stove running?  I have purchased a Jotul C550.  I followed the idea that you can always burn a smaller fire in a big stove, if you need to…

Looking forward to your comments.  Thanks.

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Posted: 02 July 2008 11:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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gibson - 02 July 2008 11:41 PM

Stanleyjohn:
Your room setup is similar to what mine will be.  How comfortable is it to hang out in that room and watch TV with the stove running?  I have purchased a Jotul C550.  I followed the idea that you can always burn a smaller fire in a big stove, if you need to…

Looking forward to your comments.  Thanks.

I haven’t had much burn time yet (4 times) but when i had it going laying on the couch it didnt get too hot!! I would say upper 70s.Since my first floor is pretty open and have a good open area to the 2nd floor!the heat disperses very well.Here is a basic floor plan of my home.

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