I have a 2000. V6. 4WD TRD suspension package.
I haven’t strained the hitch nor drivetrain yet.
When loading the bed with wood I’ve been tempted to remove the bilstein’s and substitute a few splits.
It took me ten years to wear out the springs in the 88 to look like these.
Keep saying I’m going to put some real load carrying springs in it some day. Now that I have a tractor to go in the woods with that will never happen.
They [trd package] handle speed bumps and pot holes well.
I’ve filled the bed with fresh cut cherry. Those straining springs are not a pretty sight.
The springs in the trailer are bent the right way.
FYI..always load with the thought of having to STOP if some asshat cuts you off going 50 down the highway then hits the brakes.
You must be able to stop, to much weight, and the load is going to propel you, regardless of your weight limits.
I drive an F250 8’ bed, and tow a 2 horse goose neck trailer with a 10’ extended dressing room (Long Island Sound ferry measurements are 38’ long) in all kinds of traffic.
You have to be able to stop. It is mucho importante !!
Good thought but I don’t call others names very often. We all make mistakes for one reason or another and I am sure you have made your share to. Once in a while I will lose it calling a name while driving but my wife reminds me the other person is just like me and I realize there was no call for the name calling.
It doesn’t matter what you drive as long as you have control of your vehicle. I have never had any problems stopping my Toyota full loaded. The tandom axle trailer I tow has surge brakes on it so when that is behind the truck it is vary capable of sharing the stopping load.
That tractor looks aroundabout the same size as my JD2520 and Im going to be moving (hopefully, I’ve got it all set to jack up) a shed 10x14 that looks quite a bit like that one about 50 feet.
That tractor looks aroundabout the same size as my JD2520 and Im going to be moving (hopefully, I’ve got it all set to jack up) a shed 10x14 that looks quite a bit like that one about 50 feet.
Good luck moving your shed. It should be no problem. This one is 20x12 with an 18x12 attached wood shed on the other side. No moving it. My tractor is orange but probably not much different than the green ones. It is a 16 hp which does everything I need. I purchased one of the first 16 hp Kubota’s when they came out 30 or so years ago. Used it for everything including snowblowing 3 or 4 older folks drives for 20 years, then traded it in for the same as I had paid for it on this one a few years ago. Couldn’t live without one of these 4x4 tractors with our driveway to keep open. I have been eying the rtv-900 but it doesn’t have a bucket nor a lawn mower so that will have to wait.
Well I got a load of oak tonight wet as heck, I had to stop at 90% of the load in the ranger...even with the helper coils shocks it was squatting pretty good. Like others have said it is slow and steady cause brakes were not meant to handle that kind of weight!!! Asshat...by me we call them assclowns
Back in my firewood dealing days . I started out using a 1986 hd3/4 ton ford. Built 2’ racks and routinely delivered 3 face cord (~cord) cut 14"-16" with the back row stacked and the middle thrown in and rounded slightly and 4 face cord with 6 stacked rows 5 1/2’x4 1/4’. It was definitely not safe or legal, but it worked until I could afford a larger truck.
All I can tell you is watch the weight. I have a 2007 Toyota Tundra 5.7 V8 6 foot bed and I loaded it to the gills with maple, 75% water. I was settled on the leaf spring stops all the way home. But that’s what it’s made for...right?? . I told the guy to lighten the load the next time.
I had loaded concrete retaining wall block called keystone in my ranger, used 2x4’s over the frame stops...then added another 15 or so block at 110lbs a block, never again. It takes like a block to stop!!!
I work with a guy who told me he put 1 1/2 cords block in a F150!! I tried to correct him and he told me I didn’t know what I was talking about. I just wish I was selling him the wood if you know what I mean. Anyways, I pick up a load of blocks in my F250SD with 6 1/2 bed, pack it in and stack it high in the middle and when I get it home and split and stack it amounts to just shy of two face cords. I WOULD NOT recommend putting that much in a truck any smaller than a 3/4 ton for safety purposes! Just my .02$.
A cord and a half in any pickup bed is darn near impossible...mass aside I don’t think you can get that much volume ontoa pickup and not have it all over the driveway when you pull out.
That said I can easily toss about 2800-3000lb into my 3/4 ton Silverado and still be under my GVWR. I’ve probably put a solid 1/2-2/3 cord into the bed and hauled it without any drama.
My wood guy uses a dump truck. I paid him $280 for a pile of Oak and Ash, split and delivered. When I stacked it, I had two stacks that measured 4’X16’...plus a little extra. So that was a “truck load”
i wasn’t sure what to expect but I think that was a fair deal.
If the wood is 16 inchs you got 1.33 cord there. No idea what the going price is in your neck of the woods...Oak only here is approaching 300 bucks a cord and mixed is 250-280, think you did good by that measure.
A cord and a half in any pickup bed is darn near impossible...mass aside I don’t think you can get that much volume ontoa pickup and not have it all over the driveway when you pull out.
That said I can easily toss about 2800-3000lb into my 3/4 ton Silverado and still be under my GVWR. I’ve probably put a solid 1/2-2/3 cord into the bed and hauled it without any drama.
Bottom line is know your equipment.
i’ve heard of oveerloading truck & bending rear axle! never seen it but almost makes sense
You’d probably never bend your axle, but I could see severe overloading snapping your springs. In order to do that to my truck I would probably have to put 3 or 4 tons in the bed, which I would never do.
Just in case you think I’m overloading my truck though, the 3/4 ton rating does not mean its rated to hold a 1500lb load...maybe it did 50 years ago, but not anymore...its just a GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) classification...which is how much the truck is rated to weigh in total...truck, fluids, passengers and cargo. 3/4 ton menas 8600lb GVWR, so 8600lb - my 5600lb truck gives me about 3000lb safe and properly carrying capacity. 3/4 HD is 9200lb, 1 ton is 9600lb and so on. So my truck hauling 3000lb of whatever I put in the bed is right theer at the upper limit of its rated (and legal) capacity.
Other factors also apply such as the GAWR of each axle, but you get the idea.
You’d probably never bend your axle, but I could see severe overloading snapping your springs. In order to do that to my truck I would probably have to put 3 or 4 tons in the bed, which I would never do.
Just in case you think I’m overloading my truck though, the 3/4 ton rating does not mean its rated to hold a 1500lb load...maybe it did 50 years ago, but not anymore...its just a GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) classification...which is how much the truck is rated to weigh in total...truck, fluids, passengers and cargo. 3/4 ton menas 8600lb GVWR, so 8600lb - my 5600lb truck gives me about 3000lb safe and properly carrying capacity. 3/4 HD is 9200lb, 1 ton is 9600lb and so on. So my truck hauling 3000lb of whatever I put in the bed is right theer at the upper limit of its rated (and legal) capacity.
Other factors also apply such as the GAWR of each axle, but you get the idea.
So what makes you think that your truck weighs 5600 lbs, have you actually weighed it? I have weighed my weenie half ton on several occasions and depending on fuel load run 5800 lbs with no cargo. The folks with those noce big 2500s from GM are reporting 7000 lb empty weights. This still leaves a healthy 1600 lbs of cargo capacity for you though. Oddly, a ford ranger or toyota minitruck spec out to 1500 lbs of payload capacity as well. Properly spec’d (read a rare truck) you can get your curb weight down to almost what GM lists for the truck. We’re talking 2wd, reg cab, small gas engine, etc.
I have bent my axles. I also ruined a pinion bearing in my truck’s rear end and when the men were rebuilding the axle they informed me that the axle tubes had been bent due to overloading but nod badly enough to trash the assembly. Between the pinion and bent tubes they concluded that I needed a much bigger truck.
You most certainly can bend a rear axle housing...and you can break one. And you can ruin your rear axle shaft bearings. Regardless of what you do with suspension components, it’s still the axle that has to transmit the entire load to the wheeels, tires, and the ground. The axle housing extension beyond the point of attachment of the suspension on both sides is the point of maximum bending stress. Beyond that, you’ve got the axle shaft bearings and the housing attachment to the wheels. It’s the bending strength of the rear axle housing at those points that determines the load capacity of the vehicle. Beefing up the suspension will likely improve the fully loaded ride & handling, but that’s a false indication of having more load capacity...you don’t. The only real way to increase the load capacity is to replace the entire rear axle with a stronger one. Serious off-roaders, racers, and rock crawler builders/enthusiasts do this as a matter of routine, because they understand their vehicles’ inherent structural limitations. Rick
You’d probably never bend your axle, but I could see severe overloading snapping your springs. In order to do that to my truck I would probably have to put 3 or 4 tons in the bed, which I would never do.
Just in case you think I’m overloading my truck though, the 3/4 ton rating does not mean its rated to hold a 1500lb load...maybe it did 50 years ago, but not anymore...its just a GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) classification...which is how much the truck is rated to weigh in total...truck, fluids, passengers and cargo. 3/4 ton menas 8600lb GVWR, so 8600lb - my 5600lb truck gives me about 3000lb safe and properly carrying capacity. 3/4 HD is 9200lb, 1 ton is 9600lb and so on. So my truck hauling 3000lb of whatever I put in the bed is right theer at the upper limit of its rated (and legal) capacity.
Other factors also apply such as the GAWR of each axle, but you get the idea.
So what makes you think that your truck weighs 5600 lbs, have you actually weighed it? I have weighed my weenie half ton on several occasions and depending on fuel load run 5800 lbs with no cargo. The folks with those noce big 2500s from GM are reporting 7000 lb empty weights.
I have bent my axles. I also ruined a pinion bearing in my truck’s rear end and when the men were rebuilding the axle they informed me that the axle tubes had been bent due to overloading but nod badly enough to trash the assembly. Between the pinion and bent tubes they concluded that I needed a much bigger truck.
I have in fact weighed my truck on a couple dozen occasions. Our gravel pit charges by weight and they have you run over the scale before and lafter loading, weights are pirnted on the receipt...typically I come in around 5800-6000lb with myself as the sole passenger, the other major variable being how full my gas tank is.. I have seen it as low as 5600 when I stepped out and it was on fumes. Lots of possible variables out there in the trucking world that can determine weight though...could be alot of the guys you’re talking about have deisel crew cab long beds...FWIW GM no longer makes a 3/4 ton truck...they’re all 3/4HD’s now and the GVWR is now 9200 across the board, so they’re back up in the 2200lb carrying capacity if they’re coming in a 7k vehicle weight.
I agree with you though that there is not much point in a heavy duty pickup that can’t even carry 2000lb in the bed...might as well save alot of money and go get a half ton.
It may be relevant to note that my truck is a 2000 Silverado 2500 extended cab 4x4 with a 6.5’ bed and a gas 6.0 motor, so I’m probably midrange in the vehicle weight category of all the 2500 variations made that year.
Yep, can see it already, pull in a stock ranger with coil helpers, pull out a supercharged 351 (big block won’t fit) and a big chunk on the home equity loan!!! I keep looking at the supercrew ranch kings...it may be time soon! Of course I would still do the coil helpers!!!!
“I agree with you though that there is not much point in a heavy duty pickup that can’t even carry 2000lb in the bed...might as well save alot of money and go get a half ton.”
Ack, the trouble is that my half ton at 5800 empty weight and GVWR of 6200 only has a payload of 400 lbs!!! Seriously, that’s only two healthy ladies in the bed as cargo. Be very careful with half tons and cargo, they just don’t spec them out for hauling. Better for towing a trailer.
But that’s what it’s made for...right?? 
. I told the guy to lighten the load the next time. 
Rick
