EFI Live is a prorgram that allows you to tap into, and control, the GM ECU. You can pretty much modify any settings the factory ECU controls with it, from tuning, to alarm settings. Google it for more info.
OK, I personally believe the whole “brown’s gas generator” for automotive fuel economy improvement is total BS. Current into water, generate hydroxy gas. More strain on the alternator = more drag on the engine. More energy in than out (hey, sounds familiar- biofuels???) I have an office mate that thought this was the answer to everyhting, and I started looking into it a bit more. What I found was that you had to mess with O2 sensors and EMU, leaning the mixture way down. BUT, if you do this without the little mason jar under the hood, you get the same results (better mileage, reduced engine life).
I’d like to see someone credible try this and show some results. I think this is a case of someone thinking they are doing something that they’re not.
Why isn’t this in NY Times? Why isn’t this huge news in maninstream media? Where the Science journal article from university research?
I’m not buyin’ it. But, if someone wants to take a chance with their car and document results, I’d be interested.
Like I said, it’s bunk. You’ll never generate enough hydrogen efficiently to aid in any significant mileage increases. Don’t you think if adding this silly little contraption under the hood would yield 30% mileage increases (or even 5% for that matter), wouldn’t the auto manufactures be doing it?????????????
Like I said, it’s bunk. You’ll never generate enough hydrogen efficiently to aid in any significant mileage increases. Don’t you think if adding this silly little contraption under the hood would yield 30% mileage increases (or even 5% for that matter), wouldn’t the auto manufactures be doing it?????????????
Not if the auto manufacturers had a lot of money invested in the oil companies!!!
Like I said, it’s bunk. You’ll never generate enough hydrogen efficiently to aid in any significant mileage increases. Don’t you think if adding this silly little contraption under the hood would yield 30% mileage increases (or even 5% for that matter), wouldn’t the auto manufactures be doing it?????????????
Not if the auto manufacturers had a lot of money invested in the oil companies!!!
I think they would if it meant that their sales would go through the roof (which they would right now - I never used to see MPG ratings in ads, now it’s plastered across the screen in the commercials).
Like I said, it’s bunk. You’ll never generate enough hydrogen efficiently to aid in any significant mileage increases. Don’t you think if adding this silly little contraption under the hood would yield 30% mileage increases (or even 5% for that matter), wouldn’t the auto manufactures be doing it?????????????
Nope I dont there are a ton of alternative energy sources and we still use oil, that is what are government wants.
Hey, on the O2 sims they may no longer be available. Was also reading articles about the manufacturer being stung by the EPA for selling them, and they were being forced to recall unsold stock.
If you are going to delete the rear O2s, then EFI Live is the way to go, or any other program that allows you to manipulate the computer directly.
Thanks all, I’ll look into EFI Live. I didn’t totally remove the cats, just popped a couple holes in them and remounted. They were stuffed up and causing performance issues. There was some talk earlier about thermodynamics regarding energy in and energy out. Considering the H2 unit on a car would be powered indirectly off the alternator and that alternators put out power whether used or not (correct?), is it possible that there would be a net gain? I’m still not buying it, just curious.
Most of the energy produced by combustion in an engine goes to waste (look at how much effort goes into cooling it!).
A strain on the electrical system effects mileage- so there is some extra gas being used to generate hydrogen if using the alternator. Only if the engine somehow directs some waste energy into the electrical system that would otherwise have gone to waste heat should you have any possible efficiency gain. On top of that- the use of that hydrogen is not going to be super efficient either, and much energy is lost as heat in exhaust and engine parts.
So- Energy from gas > energy in the form of H2 and O2 > Energy from H2/O2 combustion.
Does the H2 and O2 introduction somehow also make gasoline combustion more efficient? I have no idea.
Thanks all, I’ll look into EFI Live. I didn’t totally remove the cats, just popped a couple holes in them and remounted. They were stuffed up and causing performance issues. There was some talk earlier about thermodynamics regarding energy in and energy out. Considering the H2 unit on a car would be powered indirectly off the alternator and that alternators put out power whether used or not (correct?), is it possible that there would be a net gain? I’m still not buying it, just curious.
Hey Gotz, as the electricity needs of your auto increases (lights, fan motors, hydrogen generator) the drag of the alternator is increased (inductance), and more hp is required to turn it = more fuel.
