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Posted: 28 September 2006 11:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Roospike - 28 September 2006 10:57 PM

Yogi , Along with the chaps get your a logging helmet with face shield and ear muffs.  here is a link to “help” its a good staring point. http://www.mytreelessons.com/ChainSaw.htm

Thank you Roo, that was good reading, I stil don’t understand why it is so much more dangerous to cut down a bigger tree yet? Why is that so dangerous? I looked at the face sheild/helmet thing, how do you see out of that thing? How can that be safe? Ear muffs, are those bigger saws really that much louder?

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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A small tree that is 2,000 lbs standing stright up in the air 30’ up VS a 20,000 lbs tree standing stright up in the air 50’ high +.......... You dont see the danger difference ? #1 when cutting you HAVE to know how to contol the fall of the tree by how you cut it.and even at that there no 100% guarantee that tree will fall the direction you aim it. are you going to leave a hinge in the tree? how thick of hinge ? maybe just cut it all the way through .......... no hinge = lack of control and when that baby hits the ground the bottom of the trunk could kick back at you. I dont think you going to win against a tree coming back on a rebound bounce. Spring pole? You need to decide what kind of face cut your going to put in the tree ....... ware your back cut is going to be and how deep.Is the tree have a lean? Maybe you need to do a bore cut /////// Is it going to barber chair on you? Any idea how many wedges your going to need for a 48” wide tree to control the fall ? Do you have any widow makers ? Did you check ? Is the trunk hollow ? how is the weight of the tree for balance? wind speed ....... how is it ? any gusts ? how tall is the tree ? do you know where the top is going to land ? anybody around .... cars trucks people dogs ...... ? If you dont know the answers to these questions or what the questions even mean then i would stay away from a 48” wide tree. Do all the research you can and if you know somebody that cuts trees with a lot of experience ...........tag along. Control felling the small trees first before you even think about felling a large tree.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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When he gets better he will be able to drop it on a beer can. Might take 40 years to master,but he will get it some day.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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bobo - 29 September 2006 12:13 AM

When he gets better he will be able to drop it on a beer can. Might take 40 years to master,but he will get it some day.

What is that supposed to mean? Am I not capable of learning? Am I too stupid to figure out some geometry? Man, what a jerk!!

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Roospike - 29 September 2006 12:09 AM

A small tree that is 2,000 lbs standing stright up in the air 30’ up VS a 20,000 lbs tree standing stright up in the air 50’ high +.......... You dont see the danger difference ? #1 when cutting you HAVE to know how to contol the fall of the tree buy how you cut it.and even at that there no 100% guarantee that tree will fall the direction you aim it. are you going to leave a hinge in the tree? how think of hinge ? maybe just cut it all the way through .......... no hinge = lack of control and when that baby hits the ground the bottom of the trunk could kick back at you. I dont think you going to win against a tree coming back on a rebound bounce. You need to deside what kind of face cut your going to put in the tree ....... ware your back cut is going to be and how deep. Any idea how many wedges your going to need for a 48” wide tree to control the fall ? Do you have any wido makers ? Did you check ? Is the trunk hollow ? how is the weight of the tree for balance? wind speed ....... how is it ? any gusts ? how tall is the tree ? do you know where the top is going to land ? anybody around .... cars trucks people dogs ...... ? If you dont know the answers to these questions or what the questions even mean then i would stay away from a 48” wide tree. Do all the research you can and if you know somebody that cuts trees with a lot of experience ...........tag along. Control felling the small trees first before you even think about felling a large tree.

Yes, I get the 45’s law, I have a clue where it’s going to go!!!! I am trying to learn here, I have read about the humbolt in magazines would this work for the larger trees I am looking at? Why can I not make a face cut aand have soemone pull it with a tractor while I do the back cut? I mean, if the lean is one way and I pull that way, it can’t help but go that way, right?

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Roospike - 29 September 2006 12:09 AM

A small tree that is 2,000 lbs standing stright up in the air 30’ up VS a 20,000 lbs tree standing stright up in the air 50’ high +.......... You dont see the danger difference ? #1 when cutting you HAVE to know how to contol the fall of the tree buy how you cut it.and even at that there no 100% guarantee that tree will fall the direction you aim it. are you going to leave a hinge in the tree? how think of hinge ? maybe just cut it all the way through .......... no hinge = lack of control and when that baby hits the ground the bottom of the trunk could kick back at you. I dont think you going to win against a tree coming back on a rebound bounce. You need to deside what kind of face cut your going to put in the tree ....... ware your back cut is going to be and how deep. Any idea how many wedges your going to need for a 48” wide tree to control the fall ? Do you have any wido makers ? Did you check ? Is the trunk hollow ? how is the weight of the tree for balance? wind speed ....... how is it ? any gusts ? how tall is the tree ? do you know where the top is going to land ? anybody around .... cars trucks people dogs ...... ? If you dont know the answers to these questions or what the questions even mean then i would stay away from a 48” wide tree. Do all the research you can and if you know somebody that cuts trees with a lot of experience ...........tag along. Control felling the small trees first before you even think about felling a large tree.

Yes, I get the 45’s law, I have a clue where it’s going to go!!!! I am trying to learn here, I have read about the humbolt in magazines would this work for the larger trees I am looking at? Why can I not make a face cut aand have soemone pull it with a tractor while I do the back cut? I mean, if the lean is one way and I pull that way, it can’t help but go that way, right?

Lean? watch the leaners ......... ever seen a barber chair ? if its leaning you will want to look at doing a bore cut.
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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Yogi stick to clearing brush. That is something you and your wildthing can handle.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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If you know exactly what i’m talking about in my post then you’ll be on your way. I would still start with the smaller trees at first. Dont forget all your P.P.E.

A small tree that is 2,000 lbs standing stright up in the air 30’ up VS a 20,000 lbs tree standing stright up in the air 50’ high +.......... You dont see the danger difference ? #1 when cutting you HAVE to know how to contol the fall of the tree by how you cut it.and even at that there no 100% guarantee that tree will fall the direction you aim it. are you going to leave a hinge in the tree? how think of hinge ? maybe just cut it all the way through .......... no hinge = lack of control and when that baby hits the ground the bottom of the trunk could kick back at you. I dont think you going to win against a tree coming back on a rebound bounce. Spring pole? You need to decide what kind of face cut your going to put in the tree ....... ware your back cut is going to be and how deep.Is the tree have a lean? Maybe you need to do a bore cut /////// Is it goping to barber chain on you? Any idea how many wedges your going to need for a 48” wide tree to control the fall ? Do you have any widow makers ? Did you check ? Is the trunk hollow ? how is the weight of the tree for balance? wind speed ....... how is it ? any gusts ? how tall is the tree ? do you know where the top is going to land ? anybody around .... cars trucks people dogs ...... ? If you dont know the answers to these questions or what the questions even mean then i would stay away from a 48” wide tree. Do all the research you can and if you know somebody that cuts trees with a lot of experience ...........tag along. Control felling the small trees first before you even think about felling a large tree.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Uh yeah, I have had a lot of haircuts? What is with you guys and haircuts on here? What does this have to do with cutting down trees? Bore cut? Do I have to buy an auger too?

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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bobo - 29 September 2006 12:24 AM

Yogi stick to clearing brush. That is something you and your wildthing can handle.

What exactly does that mean? A person comes here trying to learn and gets treated like this? WOW!!!

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Yogi - 29 September 2006 12:27 AM

Uh yeah, I have had a lot of haircuts? What is with you guys and haircuts on here? What does this have to do with cutting down trees? Bore cut? Do I have to buy an auger too?

Barber chair has nothing to do with a hair cut but it can kill you. as for a bore cut your chainsaw will do fine as long as you know how to do your entry and how to control it. Make sure you leave a good amount of strap before you pop it off for the final fall.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Yogi - 29 September 2006 12:27 AM

Uh yeah, I have had a lot of haircuts? What is with you guys and haircuts on here? What does this have to do with cutting down trees? Bore cut? Do I have to buy an auger too?

Stick to the brush man.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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bobo - 29 September 2006 12:42 AM
Yogi - 29 September 2006 12:27 AM

Uh yeah, I have had a lot of haircuts? What is with you guys and haircuts on here? What does this have to do with cutting down trees? Bore cut? Do I have to buy an auger too?

Stick to the brush man.

What do you mean by this? I am not understanding what you are reffering to? Is this meant as an inult?

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Watch a pro and learn so you dont get hurt. Be a good groundie first . Just pay close attention to detail.So much can and will go wrong. That is what I mean by stick to the brush. As you advance you will increase your capability and awareness. Then you will be ready for the bigger tree’s.

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Posted: 29 September 2006 12:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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bobo - 29 September 2006 12:52 AM

Watch a pro and learn so you dont get hurt. Be a good groundie first . Just pay close attention to detail.So much can and will go wrong. That is what I mean by stick to the brush. As you advance you will increase your capability and awareness. Then you will be ready for the bigger tree’s.

I kind of get what you are saying, what is a “groundie”? Maybe I can find a tree service to work for for a week and learn all of this from them! Coud I come work fo you bobo? I would do it for free just for the education, I think a week and I should have it down, don’t you?

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