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Posted: 25 October 2006 01:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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HarryBack - 25 October 2006 07:37 AM

sage advice TedNH.....seems alot of folks just drag the scraper over the burnpot....youve gotta be more aggressive.
Set the draft? Heck yea! GVA is right in that it is SUPPOSEDLY set at the factory, but Ive seen a few QC problems this year, and wouldnt discount the fact that some havent been set.....had one with the combustion fan totally unplugged....and the connections are tight...they dont fall out.....so, praytell, how can the draft be tested when the fan isnt even plugged in?>

True..but mine was tested by the dealer during pre-burn...just remebered I forgot to ask the dealer about the backdraft damper on mine always being about 85% closed. DOH!!

But I set it at a feed of 2.5 and temp of 72 and I moved the probe out from behind and set it on the window sill and it has worked great for over 24 hours. I get more ash buildup on the burnpot than i would like, but the house is warm and the flame is fine.

testing draft on preburn means nothing....must be tested with actual venting in place.

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Posted: 25 October 2006 10:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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TedNH - 24 October 2006 11:02 PM

I got my stove figured out.
SCRAPE YOUR BURN POT.
And I mean GOOD.
I had big chunks of carbon stuck to the SIDES of the pot.  Now the fire looks like a blow torch and its throwing some mean heat.

I just did this..I had been cleaning the front of the burnpot....tonight I let the fire die down and REALLY got deep down and cleaned it all out...I had no idea the back and the sides would need to be cleaned. This is a learning process...but I ran the stove for 2 days without touching a single setting...grin

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Posted: 25 October 2006 10:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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tundraSQ - 25 October 2006 10:08 PM
TedNH - 24 October 2006 11:02 PM

I got my stove figured out.
SCRAPE YOUR BURN POT.
And I mean GOOD.
I had big chunks of carbon stuck to the SIDES of the pot.  Now the fire looks like a blow torch and its throwing some mean heat.

I just did this..I had been cleaning the front of the burnpot....tonight I let the fire die down and REALLY got deep down and cleaned it all out...I had no idea the back and the sides would need to be cleaned. This is a learning process...but I ran the stove for 2 days without touching a single setting...grin

thanks

If you do a search here I’m sure you’ll see tips on what to use to scrape the burn pot with, as that scraper that comes with the stove is ok for removing ash but not clinkers(carbon buildup). Use the scraper that came with the stove for walls and heat exchangers but the burnpot needs something a bit more rugged.

Just a tip Every day when I get home from work I give a quick but strong scrape of the back of the burnpot, Just to keep the carbon from really building up (it only takes a minute and the stove is still running when I do this)

On the advance the major buildup is always on the left hand side of the burnpot and the glass always fogs on that side first.
There seems to be a bunch of 25 owners here....  What side is worse for clinkers and which is worse for the glass fogging up?

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Posted: 25 October 2006 10:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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GVA - 25 October 2006 10:27 PM
tundraSQ - 25 October 2006 10:08 PM
TedNH - 24 October 2006 11:02 PM

I got my stove figured out.
SCRAPE YOUR BURN POT.
And I mean GOOD.
I had big chunks of carbon stuck to the SIDES of the pot.  Now the fire looks like a blow torch and its throwing some mean heat.

I just did this..I had been cleaning the front of the burnpot....tonight I let the fire die down and REALLY got deep down and cleaned it all out...I had no idea the back and the sides would need to be cleaned. This is a learning process...but I ran the stove for 2 days without touching a single setting...grin

thanks

If you do a search here I’m sure you’ll see tips on what to use to scrape the burn pot with, as that scraper that comes with the stove is ok for removing ash but not clinkers(carbon buildup). Use the scraper that came with the stove for walls and heat exchangers but the burnpot needs something a bit more rugged.

Just a tip Every day when I get home from work I give a quick but strong scrape of the back of the burnpot, Just to keep the carbon from really building up (it only takes a minute and the stove is still running when I do this)

On the advance the major buildup is always on the left hand side of the burnpot and the glass always fogs on that side first.
There seems to be a bunch of 25 owners here....  What side is worse for clinkers and which is worse for the glass fogging up?

Left side for me had the most build up...and I was thinking as I was scraping it..."there MUST” be a better tool for this”...and the right side and top of my glass fogs worst.

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Posted: 25 October 2006 11:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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tundraSQ - 25 October 2006 10:53 PM
GVA - 25 October 2006 10:27 PM
tundraSQ - 25 October 2006 10:08 PM
TedNH - 24 October 2006 11:02 PM

I got my stove figured out.
SCRAPE YOUR BURN POT.
And I mean GOOD.
I had big chunks of carbon stuck to the SIDES of the pot.  Now the fire looks like a blow torch and its throwing some mean heat.

I just did this..I had been cleaning the front of the burnpot....tonight I let the fire die down and REALLY got deep down and cleaned it all out...I had no idea the back and the sides would need to be cleaned. This is a learning process...but I ran the stove for 2 days without touching a single setting...grin

thanks

If you do a search here I’m sure you’ll see tips on what to use to scrape the burn pot with, as that scraper that comes with the stove is ok for removing ash but not clinkers(carbon buildup). Use the scraper that came with the stove for walls and heat exchangers but the burnpot needs something a bit more rugged.

Just a tip Every day when I get home from work I give a quick but strong scrape of the back of the burnpot, Just to keep the carbon from really building up (it only takes a minute and the stove is still running when I do this)

On the advance the major buildup is always on the left hand side of the burnpot and the glass always fogs on that side first.
There seems to be a bunch of 25 owners here....  What side is worse for clinkers and which is worse for the glass fogging up?

Left side for me had the most build up...and I was thinking as I was scraping it..."there MUST” be a better tool for this”...and the right side and top of my glass fogs worst.

Check this out for suggestions smile
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/3523/

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Posted: 26 October 2006 06:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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GVA - 25 October 2006 11:03 PM
tundraSQ - 25 October 2006 10:53 PM
GVA - 25 October 2006 10:27 PM
tundraSQ - 25 October 2006 10:08 PM
TedNH - 24 October 2006 11:02 PM

I got my stove figured out.
SCRAPE YOUR BURN POT.
And I mean GOOD.
I had big chunks of carbon stuck to the SIDES of the pot.  Now the fire looks like a blow torch and its throwing some mean heat.

I just did this..I had been cleaning the front of the burnpot....tonight I let the fire die down and REALLY got deep down and cleaned it all out...I had no idea the back and the sides would need to be cleaned. This is a learning process...but I ran the stove for 2 days without touching a single setting...grin

thanks

If you do a search here I’m sure you’ll see tips on what to use to scrape the burn pot with, as that scraper that comes with the stove is ok for removing ash but not clinkers(carbon buildup). Use the scraper that came with the stove for walls and heat exchangers but the burnpot needs something a bit more rugged.

Just a tip Every day when I get home from work I give a quick but strong scrape of the back of the burnpot, Just to keep the carbon from really building up (it only takes a minute and the stove is still running when I do this)

On the advance the major buildup is always on the left hand side of the burnpot and the glass always fogs on that side first.
There seems to be a bunch of 25 owners here....  What side is worse for clinkers and which is worse for the glass fogging up?

Left side for me had the most build up...and I was thinking as I was scraping it..."there MUST” be a better tool for this”...and the right side and top of my glass fogs worst.

Check this out for suggestions smile
http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/3523/

I was thinking of a wood working “turners” gouge...something with a wooden handle to grip, as the metal scraper that comes with the xxv gets really warm and it is possible to absentmindedly turn it around to use the other end and maybe burn your hand DAMHIKT :O

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Posted: 26 October 2006 09:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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After that good scrape down the stove has been running MUCH better.
I have also come to the conclusion that I need to trust in the stove manufacturers knowledge and use the electronics to run the stove.
So I am now on room temp 68-70* feed rate of 3 and the fan on high.  I’m letting the stove run itself.  It going all the time now, but its not really using a whole bunch of pellets right now.  And the room is at 68*.  My biggest worry was the stove wasn’t going to be able to heat the space I want it too.  But since I cranked it the other night I know it can do it.
I vacuumed the stove out well last night.  Pulled the cover off the igniter.  Lots of fine ash in there.

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