Beth - 03 November 2006 04:54 PM

Hi everyone! Thanks for your input. I have a lot of research to do.

Sandy, I have a question re the hard water issue. The white film I have is an occasional weekly to biweekly problem.  If it was a hard water build up, wouldn’t it be there every time I washed the dishes until I actually used a stripper of some kind to get the mineral deposits off? The white film comes off after I re-wash the dishes in the dish washer leading me to believe it is a soap residue not rinsing off properly. I will try the products you recommend before purchasing a new machine though. Thanks so much for pointing them out to me. I’d certainly hate to buy a new machine just to find out it is the hard water.

Thanks again everyone!

Might have to do with the timing of the water softener cycles.

Steve

Webwidow - 03 November 2006 06:54 PM

Jenn-Air cooktop

Off topic but I feel some past knowledge spilling out of my fingertips onto the screen. Watch out for the down drafting Jenn Air cook tops. They have been known to create a hostile environment for chimneys by creating a negative draft flow in the house. In other words chimneys that just don’t draft well and smoke. Cracking a window is one way to assist with this problem. Or of course turn off the dang downdraft fan on the stove.

Burning CHUNK… huh… well, I suppose its better than Burning HUNK, like before .... but if I called my wife a chunk, she’d kick my a$$!
Tell Craig to stop wasting his time posting that left wing drivel in the Ash Can, and start using that imagination of his to come up with something better than burning chunk!

-- Mike

PS - Jenn Air is not particularly high quality, although their marketing campaign implies they are.  I think Kitchen Aid is supposed to be good American stuff… and Wolf if you are going to break the bank open.  The Jenn Air stove was useless, the downdraft was lame, but the GRIDDLE… as mentioned above, rescues that otherwise useless piece of kitchen junk and transforms it into the pancake machine!  Downside to that is another 10 pounds on the waist, all thanks to the convenience of making pancakes every morning… ugh, and all the french toast… and the eggs… I can still feel my arteries crying for mercy!

Have a Kenmore Ultra with the stainless steel interior.  Very pleased with it and use china wash cycle most of the time - only 26 minutes or so.  Has a sensor to auto adjust wash time according to amount of soil in the water.  The Kenmore Ultra line is made in the Kitchen Aid factory - I compared my unit to the KA version next to it and were exactly the same but a couple hundred less Kenmore name.  The regular Kenmores are made in the Whirlpool factory and they get good ratings in Consumer Reports.  If you go to http://www.energystar.gov there is a list of dishwasher efficiency ratings.

Not sure why the film would come and go. I do know htat both hard water and temps can cause film on glasses. Could be a combination of water temp and hard water. What is your hot water heater temp set at? Should be at 130, is it? If you so desire, try and see if there is any set situation that results in your film. To see if it is temp related, try making sure that your hot water heater has a decent supply of hot water and then run a load. In other words, make sure that you haven’t been washing dishes, doing laundry, showering for a while so you know that the tank has a decent supply of hot water in it for your dishwasher cycle. Run it, is there film? Run it again after showering or laundry. Is there film? Try the products I recommended for hard water. Is there film? With a little detective work, you may save yourself the cost a new dishwasher.

Bosch is great.