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Manufactured Logs, Bio Bricks and Wood Pellet “Baskets”?, see Ebay link
Posted: 16 August 2007 05:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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I wonder how much pressure they use to compress these things. Does anybody know?

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Posted: 16 August 2007 08:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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i suspect its a similar setup to pellets, they are extruded (but they may be molded as well come to thiink of it), i do not know at what the pressure , but im sure its up there , once extruded(if they are) they are probably cut to length and packaged soon after cooling to avoid moisture buildup.

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Posted: 17 August 2007 01:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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I was thinking they were extruded too, but they have the name stamped in the top of them.  If extruded then that would have to be routed out after then were extruded, kinda of a waste of time since it could really slow production down.  Are you sure they’re heated?  The pellet making machine video posted on here didnt show any heating of the aggregate.  Hey if you put anything under 10 tons of pressure it will heat up pretty quickly.  Back when I had my shop I had some experience with die cutting fabric.  It’s very similar.  Stack 20 layers of fabric and lay the die on it and hit with about 7 tons of pressure and presto it cuts all the way through.

The reason why I’m asking is that saw dust is free.  Well around here anyway.  The local lumber mill sells slab wood cut to length for 100 bucks a 3 ton dump truck load of it delivered.  I see them burning saw dust in huge piles all the time.  Anyway most all of us have splitters.  Dies aren’t cheap but they aren’t awfully expensive either.  A few hundred bucks to have a set made.  Or just pour one out of concreted and buy a ram head that fits the whole.  Then, fill it up with saw dust and pack it into a log.  It might take a little longer than splitting a piece of wood, but you wouldn’t have to cut it down, buck it, or haul it home and the aggregate is either free or very cheap.  I have a press in the garage.  I might take a piece of fence post and make some sort of a ram head and see how hard it would be to make one.

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Posted: 17 August 2007 11:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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What about Boston pellet and sawdust over on D street in Boston?

As far as I can tell from their website they only sell pellets.  But their website is pretty limited.  It wouldn’t surprise me if there was anything missing there.  I’m not curious enough or interested enough to pick up the phone to call and ask.
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Posted: 21 August 2007 07:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Okay, so I wanted to give the BioBrick idea a try, and stopped by my local dealer to price out a ton.  I figured what, 250 a ton… sure, no problem… maybe I’ll order a ton or two, or even three, and see how the winter goes.
Well, sorry to say, but I just about choked… 375 a ton.  Yeah, look, I know that diesel is expensive, and biomass is getting expensive, etc., but 375 a ton, plus tax? Nope.
As much as I’d really like to try them, and as much as I’d like to justify using them, its just not feasible.  Decent full cords of hardwood go for 160-175 around here, delivered. 
BioMan, seriously, I don’t know what this guy’s overhead is, but its got to be negatively impacting sales when they are priced so high… he wanted 11.50 for a small bag of them too… come on.

FWIW, a quick trip to Pelletsales.com shows me that I can order 8 ton, delivered to here, for less than $2000… which is 250/ton to my door.

Maybe I’ll blow 11 bucks on a bag just for the novelty of it, but in the meantime… make way for the splits.

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Posted: 21 August 2007 08:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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That’s unacceptable!, Make a day trip over to me and I’ll fill your car @ $4.75 per pack.  We need competion in this area.  Please help me find others willing to carry BioBricks(tm).

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Posted: 21 August 2007 08:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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What about Boston pellet and sawdust over on D street in Boston?

As far as I can tell from their website they only sell pellets.  But their website is pretty limited.  It wouldn’t surprise me if there was anything missing there.  I’m not curious enough or interested enough to pick up the phone to call and ask.
~Cath

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Posted: 21 August 2007 08:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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What about Boston pellet and sawdust over on D street in Boston?

As far as I can tell from their website they only sell pellets.  But their website is pretty limited.  It wouldn’t surprise me if there was anything missing there.  I’m not curious enough or interested enough to pick up the phone to call and ask.
~Cath

Cath, best as I can tell south shore pellet just picked up my product.  I think he is going to be resonably priced - its quantity that makes the $$$$ not gouging....

Talk to Ken and tell him tom sent you…

http://www.southshorewoodpellets.com/

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Posted: 21 August 2007 08:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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BTW we are taking on the production of pure Ash BioBricks(tm) in Sept.  burns terrific and made from a waste stream.  This is really good stuff!!

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Posted: 21 August 2007 08:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Mike Wilson - 21 August 2007 07:44 PM

Okay, so I wanted to give the BioBrick idea a try, and stopped by my local dealer to price out a ton.  I figured what, 250 a ton… sure, no problem… maybe I’ll order a ton or two, or even three, and see how the winter goes.
Well, sorry to say, but I just about choked… 375 a ton.  Yeah, look, I know that diesel is expensive, and biomass is getting expensive, etc., but 375 a ton, plus tax? Nope.
As much as I’d really like to try them, and as much as I’d like to justify using them, its just not feasible.  Decent full cords of hardwood go for 160-175 around here, delivered. 
BioMan, seriously, I don’t know what this guy’s overhead is, but its got to be negatively impacting sales when they are priced so high… he wanted 11.50 for a small bag of them too… come on.

FWIW, a quick trip to Pelletsales.com shows me that I can order 8 ton, delivered to here, for less than $2000… which is 250/ton to my door.

Maybe I’ll blow 11 bucks on a bag just for the novelty of it, but in the meantime… make way for the splits.

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Yeah gas is expensive but it’s still 250 a ton up here and CT still borders mass and NY last time I checked…
Sounds like price gouging to me......
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Posted: 21 August 2007 08:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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BioPellet - 21 August 2007 08:27 PM

That’s unacceptable!, Make a day trip over to me and I’ll fill your car @ $4.75 per pack.  We need competion in this area.  Please help me find others willing to carry BioBricks(tm).

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where is CT - i paid 8.50 last year per pack and the guy no longer carries them (in hoptington ma)

the craigslist guy in RI was supper high too 285 delivered

i used about 4 packs last year and really liked them however the local sell price is too high

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Posted: 21 August 2007 09:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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That’s unacceptable!, Make a day trip over to me and I’ll fill your car @ $4.75 per pack.  We need competion in this area.  Please help me find others willing to carry BioBricks(tm).

BR Thomas

where is CT - i paid 8.50 last year per pack and the guy no longer carries them (in hoptington ma)

the craigslist guy in RI was supper high too 285 delivered

i used about 4 packs last year and really liked them however the local sell price is too high

http://www.BioPellet.net

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Posted: 21 August 2007 09:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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BioPellet - 21 August 2007 08:27 PM

That’s unacceptable!, Make a day trip over to me and I’ll fill your car @ $4.75 per pack.  We need competion in this area.  Please help me find others willing to carry BioBricks(tm).

BR Thomas

To hell with filling my car up… fill up the boat.  Based upon the amount of rum I sailed back from Bermuda with last year, I’d probably be able to heat my home for 2 years with that weight in BioBricks.

As for their price, yeah… that’s what I thought.  I mean, come on, that’s over the top, and just bad for distribution… hell, it scares off potential buyers.  There’s a few other stove dealers around here, I make the rounds every so often… I am going to head over to two of them and talk it up.  I wanted to try a ton or so to see if it makes the wife’s life a little easier… and mine.  We may be on the end of the earth over here, but they have this neat ferry that runs to New London every hour… THINK of the BioBricks we can fill that sucker with!

Seriously though, I’m going to poke around here and see.  If not, I’ll just have to stop by some time when I am in CT… where are you located?
Or, if there’s anyone else out here on the eastern half of LI that’s interested in going in on some serious delivery, speak up.

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Posted: 21 August 2007 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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That’s unacceptable!, Make a day trip over to me and I’ll fill your car @ $4.75 per pack.  We need competion in this area.  Please help me find others willing to carry BioBricks(tm).

BR Thomas

To hell with filling my car up… fill up the boat.  Based upon the amount of rum I sailed back from Bermuda with last year, I’d probably be able to heat my home for 2 years with that weight in BioBricks.

As for their price, yeah… that’s what I thought.  I mean, come on, that’s over the top, and just bad for distribution… hell, it scares off potential buyers.  There’s a few other stove dealers around here, I make the rounds every so often… I am going to head over to two of them and talk it up.  I wanted to try a ton or so to see if it makes the wife’s life a little easier… and mine.  We may be on the end of the earth over here, but they have this neat ferry that runs to New London every hour… THINK of the BioBricks we can fill that sucker with!

Seriously though, I’m going to poke around here and see.  If not, I’ll just have to stop by some time when I am in CT… where are you located?
Or, if there’s anyone else out here on the eastern half of LI that’s interested in going in on some serious delivery, speak up.

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Posted: 21 August 2007 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Posted: 21 August 2007 10:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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do they burn like logs?

I’d probably try them, even at that price ... but no one in my area (york,pa) carries them.

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Posted: 21 August 2007 11:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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JP, I posted a test of the biobricks in the Wiki section. Because one can pack them tightly in a stove they can burn a bit slower a more consistently than logs. Here’s a link:

http://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Category:Fuels::Compressed_Logs/

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Posted: 22 August 2007 01:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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I’ve used 2 tons of Bios in my burning. I like them and use them to supplement my cord wood. For the stop and go fires, they’re REALLY nice!! Fast starting and give you a good base to build off of.

http://www.filmloop.com/cgi-bin/bv/bv.py?ticket=DkYZZjt6UZudbe-psylsQtaHklPhMmxK&flash=1&extAds=1

Gonna probably pick up another ton or so here soon. It’s great cause they’re right down the street smile

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Posted: 22 August 2007 11:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Biopellet,
I’m in NH and would like to purchase a pallet.  Unfortunately Fireplace Village is the only dealer in my area of NH and they haven’t received their shipment yet(not due until September/October).  Do you have any suggestions for me?  Just wait til October?

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Posted: 22 August 2007 11:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Anyone know of any place in Wisconsin area where these BIO bricks or logs are available? I can only find east or west coast suppliers.

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Posted: 22 August 2007 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Biopellet,
I’m in NH and would like to purchase a pallet.  Unfortunately Fireplace Village is the only dealer in my area of NH and they haven’t received their shipment yet(not due until September/October).  Do you have any suggestions for me?  Just wait til October?

Thanks,
Y

What part of NH are you in?  Have you seen my website under wheretobuy?

I will be at New England Wood Pellet this weekend in Jaffery - they are having a biomass open house…

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Biopellet,
I’m in NH and would like to purchase a pallet.  Unfortunately Fireplace Village is the only dealer in my area of NH and they haven’t received their shipment yet(not due until September/October).  Do you have any suggestions for me?  Just wait til October?

Thanks,
Y

What part of NH are you in?  Have you seen my website under wheretobuy?

I will be at New England Wood Pellet this weekend in Jaffery - they are having a biomass open house…

Biopellet,
Thanks for your quick response.  I have been to the website.  I’m in New Boston(close to Manchester).  Unfortunately, all of your dealers in the southern part of the state(NH) are serviced by differnt branches of the same company, Fireplace Village.  Again, in speaking with them they indicated they won’t be stocking any biobricks until September/October.  I hate waiting that long to buy my fuel since prices tend to rise going into the heating season.

Thanks,
Y

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