Actually, according to their site, they’re $215. Not that it makes much diff
Yeah, I know… I know… and trust me, if I could get them for about 215/ton, even 250/ton, I’d have 4 tons in the basement right now. I’ve had conversations with Bio here about the topic, he’s been very good about it… Basically, it completely pisses me off, because he has a perfectly good product, that nobody around here is going to use because the only dealer he has is raping its customers on price. I was going to cruise around my more local stores to see if any of them want to supply the area with BioBricks, but I only have one store in Southold (8 miles away) and another in Sag Harbor (10 miles away, by Boston Whaler) to work with, and neither of them do any major stove volume… they sell stoves, and Adirondack chairs, and umbrellas… you get the picture. There’s a stove in Patchogue, I forget their name, but they seem to be a big dealer… that’s 50 miles from here though.
Just trailered 1Ton of biobricks ($280) from dist in saugus,ma
Threw (5) bricks into stove with some wood left over from construction - didnt jam the firebox at all - left plenty of open space.
temp readings from stove top peaked at 500F
Then after 45min dropped off to 330F and after 2 hours sticking to 300F
previously been using Enviro-Log’s with wood debris all around (not split lumber just leftover pine debris)
temp readings from stovetop would peak at 550F then drop off very slowly and in a more linear fashion over 3 hours with usable heat throughout.
okay now fired it up again this time (6) bricks w/ a couple scraps wood and peaked at 550F on stovetop
well at least the biobricks are clean and easy to handle and store like everyone says...I dont think they’re magic or anything
I suppose I will have to time the burn vs temp curve and plot it (cause I have to know lol)
-John
ps newbie here...I do not pretend to know what I am talking about - I am truly a first timer with wood stoves,pellet stoves.
i tried biobricks in the garn, air infused they start a little slower than cordwood however when they kick, extremely hot for about 45 minutes, recorded 1 hour burn rate of 600k btu then drop off fast , cordwood seems to last longer and at a little lower temp for same weight . i supplement with biobrick when i need to get the burn chamber up to temp to gassify suspect cordwood. also check out construction sites, wood roofers and wood fence companies, the back of my truck has become thier dumpster.
its a home depot stove by century hearth and it was 600 w/50 rebate so 550 for the 1500sq/ft capacity model (says 10k to 29k btu’s)
I cant imagine paying 2k for a stove...maybe someday
Actually - now I’m on my 2nd round of biobricks and laid them out differently (yep seen the teepee thingy) and without going into detail they need to be close together to burn longer perhaps hotter too
My house is rough construction but now insulated and some drywall.
outside temp is 38F and inside first floor where stove is now 74 and the upstairs is 69F (wow since theres a room that lets air come down from attic to 2nd flr where 2nd/3rd is unheated)
first flr 25x25 and 2nd floor 27x35
I’d really like to know what yall see on dvl stove pipe for temps (simpson-duravent doublewall close clearance) - just curious
I should say..great site glad to be here - learning as I go.
The teepee is just to get 3 of them burning well. Then you need to create a solid stack of bricks surrounding the teepee as shown in the link provided. Try to avoid airspaces in the stack. It’s the tightly stacked bricks that give the slow burn. But don’t overload the stove, that’s a lot of btus.
The teepee is just to get 3 of them burning well. Then you need to create a solid stack of bricks surrounding the teepee as shown in the link provided. Try to avoid airspaces in the stack. It’s the tightly stacked bricks that give the slow burn. But don’t overload the stove, that’s a lot of btus.
I only use the teepee lighting method for bio’s if kindling wood is not available. There is a much energy that it takes to heat up a firebox. Do like Begreen suggest and build a tight burning mass. Due to the size of my stove and fall type weather I do 10 at a time and get 8 hours heat with stove top 200-250. This will increase as it get’s colder.
The teepee is just to get 3 of them burning well. Then you need to create a solid stack of bricks surrounding the teepee as shown in the link provided. Try to avoid airspaces in the stack. It’s the tightly stacked bricks that give the slow burn. But don’t overload the stove, that’s a lot of btus.
I only use the teepee lighting method for bio’s if kindling wood is not available. There is a much energy that it takes to heat up a firebox. Do like Begreen suggest and build a tight burning mass. Due to the size of my stove and fall type weather I do 10 at a time and get 8 hours heat with stove top 200-250. This will increase as it get’s colder.
RingofFire - So you are seeing 200-250 at the end of 8 hours with 10 bricks ? Am I reading that correct ?
RingofFire - So you are seeing 200-250 at the end of 8 hours with 10 bricks ? Am I reading that correct ?
-John
Well this temp f 200-250 is with a small Fisher stove and should point that it out that it is a average temp. The last hour is more like 150 - 175 but I top it off before or by then. In short, a full burn w/o a re lite for 10 bricks will go 8 hours in my small Fisher stove. As it get’s colder I will step it up a bit.
The teepee is just to get 3 of them burning well. Then you need to create a solid stack of bricks surrounding the teepee as shown in the link provided. Try to avoid airspaces in the stack. It’s the tightly stacked bricks that give the slow burn. But don’t overload the stove, that’s a lot of btus.
Guys, three bricks might not be enough. I say on my instructions that you need 4 bricks, 3 leaned together around the newsprint and one layed flat on top. The three around the newsprint provide insulation, the one on top catches all the heat and reflects it back into the ones below. Sometimes I need to blow on the newspaaper and sometimes it takes a second try but I find it to be the easiest way in general to get started
I found a supercedar worked the best. No muss, no fuss. The BioBricks were a little reluctant to get going and need a longer flame than newspaper could provide.
The teepee is just to get 3 of them burning well. Then you need to create a solid stack of bricks surrounding the teepee as shown in the link provided. Try to avoid airspaces in the stack. It’s the tightly stacked bricks that give the slow burn. But don’t overload the stove, that’s a lot of btus.
Guys, three bricks might not be enough. I say on my instructions that you need 4 bricks, 3 leaned together around the newsprint and one layed flat on top. The three around the newsprint provide insulation, the one on top catches all the heat and reflects it back into the ones below. Sometimes I need to blow on the newspaaper and sometimes it takes a second try but I find it to be the easiest way in general to get started
Even so if done right you can catch em off with 1 ball of newspaper. To avoid blowing and getting dizzy and short breath use a bellow if you have one or rip several small strands of paper and slowly feed inside of lite paper inside of teepee seems to work also.
Even my lite teepee gets my stove top 250d. and once lite and burning well I use the poker and stack the 4 up and add freash ones rather than waiting for them to crumble and spread.
I am very happy and pleased with this product. However I will go back to wood if price goes up.
Also I was looking for the video on your site of the German press, I noticed this info was removed.
I found a supercedar worked the best. No muss, no fuss. The BioBricks were a little reluctant to get going and need a longer flame than newspaper could provide.
Not to get off topic here but where can find your supercedars?
My take is the cost is a HUGE factor here, next comes the fact that many of us grew up inhaling wood smoke and we’re addicted. BUT, having said that, I told my wife this morning I’d buy a ton or two of these to keep in the cellar for her to use when I am away or when it’s just too cold/snowy to get to the woodpile. A happy wife can offset the cost ot those bricks, a little. And, I got her to agree that I can use all the wood I want. (we’ve got about 40 AC of forest for me to work on).
I would suggest that those bio brick folks could work on production efficiency and might sell more at a bit lower cost. Imagine if they were less than pellets!
been using biobricks for a bit now and have come to the conclusion it really does matter how you stack the things!
stacking close together and flat the stove produces low temps but last a long time...then leaves a hot bed of coals that last for quite some time so I can throw wood (or more bricks) on top and it catches real quick
If I stack at an angle against the back of my stove (same # of bricks - say 8) so the short side is up/down it will produce a much hotter flame
Compare temps of 250 vs 500
Not sure how this can make THAT much of a difference but I been observing this behavior for a few weeks now and am convinced it is consistently reproducable
cost is definitely too high
stacking convenience is unbeatable (1 ton goes right under my 2nd flr stairs! and I could prolly fit 3 tons same area) is better than anything and no comparison to wood
amazing how the wife factor must be mentioned as well - she loads the stove now! with biobricks
I think the best thing is to use them w/wood
the wood gets the stove hot and the bricks keep the stove warm longer so its not so hard to get the stove up to temp next time
I am burning these in a baby bear fisher and found I have to toss in some wood in the below zero nights. They did work very well in a vermont casting intrepid coal model and where a great alternative to pea and rice coal.
jjs777_fzr - 07 December 2007 11:35 AM
been using biobricks for a bit now and have come to the conclusion it really does matter how you stack the things!
stacking close together and flat the stove produces low temps but last a long time...then leaves a hot bed of coals that last for quite some time so I can throw wood (or more bricks) on top and it catches real quick
If I stack at an angle against the back of my stove (same # of bricks - say 8) so the short side is up/down it will produce a much hotter flame
Compare temps of 250 vs 500
Not sure how this can make THAT much of a difference but I been observing this behavior for a few weeks now and am convinced it is consistently reproducable
cost is definitely too high
stacking convenience is unbeatable (1 ton goes right under my 2nd flr stairs! and I could prolly fit 3 tons same area) is better than anything and no comparison to wood
amazing how the wife factor must be mentioned as well - she loads the stove now! with biobricks
I think the best thing is to use them w/wood
the wood gets the stove hot and the bricks keep the stove warm longer so its not so hard to get the stove up to temp next time
Amen to that. I am so glad I got hooked on Dave Ramsey. Now I know better than to rely on credit, I really don’t care about my credit score anymore. Too many Banks running our country perhaps is the problem, IMHO.
BeGreen - 15 October 2007 02:17 PM
Yep, frugality used to be considered one of the cornerstones of patriotism. Now we’re told it’s our patriotic duty to go out and shop.
I’d have thought you’d be burning cardboard like Dylan if you’re cheap 
