Went to get a new "gas can" for chainsaw gas

[gpcollen1]

I have never spilled more fuel than when the new design came out. And SLOW. Yeah, go ahead and try to fill two 12 gallon tanks on the back of a pontoon boat. 20 min later and two sore arms and a sore back will get you there.

Now I just remove the whole spout and pour into a funnel.

No SLOW is something I can sympathize with

How about you guys use a real can?? Plenty to choose from...not all are created equal and a reason why these cost $$

http://www.northernsafety.com/Search?q=gas+can

 

[bogydave]

Well I filled the saw per the instructions. The gas stopped when the tank was almost full. So far so good.
Released the nozzle so the internal valve closed. OK that worked.
Pulled the nozzle out of the saw's gas tank,
The gas in the nozzle over filled the gas tank & gas went all over the saw.
So much for spill proof.

gpcollen1: I've used those cans, I can't see when the saw's fuel tank is full with them & still end up spilling gas.
Must be my technique & poor vision with these new spill proof cans. Operator error on my part.

 

[Punky]

My old gas tanks had fine mesh screens built into the spout. None of the newer cans I found have those filter screens. This is one more example of how things just keep getting worse for the consumer. Kind of like how a roll of toilet paper still has 1000 sheets, but if the sheets get any smaller things could get messy.

 

[greg13]

You only spill more gas if you area little kid! The idea behind these cans - it is an EPA standard too just CA always wants their own law - is teh right onw, to eliminate all those vapors from all the gas cans in the US.

Of course there are better cans out there than the generic ones you get at HD or Lowes. If you are planning on having the can for a while, spend some money and get a good one. Do you really thing the $7 gas can is going to have the best spout...

PS - the design is also a GREAT safety feature and has been an OSHA requirement for a long time...

OK, so you take a 1"diameter spout and put it into a 1" diameter fuel fill neck, OH ya, you cant

 

[TreePointer]

I switched to the No-Spill cans. I like them a lot better than I thought I would.

 

[bogydave]

I switched to the No-Spill cans. I like them a lot better than I thought I would.

I thought I would too.
Not saying I don't like them.. "yet"... I think it's operator error. My 1st attempt failed. But I've spilled more with regular spout. Maybe I'll figure it out.
What's the trick?
Next time I'll put the spout as far into the saw gas tank as I can, maybe I wasn't in far enough. (Go deeper, I've heard that before )
It don't work for my small saw though.

greg13
I can't use it the way it's designed to fill my small saw, the spout don't fit into the gas tank.
I have the same problem you mentioned with the spout diameter being to big (Never heard that before )
(or the saw's tank cap is to small)

May still make a small can that will work form me, & use the spill proof cans to keep filled with fresh mixed gas to fill it.
Gasoline is becoming to expensive to spill it

 

[MasterMech]

You only spill more gas if you area little kid! The idea behind these cans - it is an EPA standard too just CA always wants their own law - is teh right onw, to eliminate all those vapors from all the gas cans in the US.

Of course there are better cans out there than the generic ones you get at HD or Lowes. If you are planning on having the can for a while, spend some money and get a good one. Do you really thing the $7 gas can is going to have the best spout...

PS - the design is also a GREAT safety feature and has been an OSHA requirement for a long time...

You're kidding right? I haven't seen a cheap box-store EPA can that didn't leak from the over complicated POS spout. Gas doesn't get anywhere near the tank. As far as the vapor emmisions go, I need to meet the genius that thought these new cans are gonna help that problem. OK, so the can is sealed preventing the vapors from evaporating willy nilly around the neighborhood. What, pray tell, is the first thing they tell you to do when using the can? Go read the tag that came on the can, I''ll wait...... Press the lever/button to vent the can! And just where does all that built up vapor go? Same place that the vapors went when you left a traditional can's vent open. These cans (with the exception of No-Spill brand cans.) are a perfect example of new but not improved. People are spilling more fuel, frustrated with a product that doesn't do what it was designed to do, and has little if any beneficial effects on the environment.

spend some money and get a good one

Excellent advice!

I have never spilled more fuel than when the new design came out. And SLOW. Yeah, go ahead and try to fill two 12 gallon tanks on the back of a pontoon boat. 20 min later and two sore arms and a sore back will get you there.

Now I just remove the whole spout and pour into a funnel.

Nice thing about the No-Spill cans is they are MUCH faster than the el-cheapo cans. Especially the Blitz cans. I have two 5 gal Blitz cans and will be giving them away shortly. Jags there is a video on youtube regarding how to "fix" a Blitz can using a pair of dykes and a tire valve stem. Very slick. Guy is awful proud of himself though.

 

[MasterMech]

I thought I would too.
Not saying I don't like them.. "yet"... I think it's operator error. My 1st attempt failed. But I've spilled more with regular spout. Maybe I'll figure it out.
What's the trick?
Next time I'll put the spout as far into the saw gas tank as I can, maybe I wasn't in far enough. (Go deeper, I've heard that before )
It don't work for my small saw though.

greg13
I can't use it the way it's designed to fill my small saw, the spout don't fit into the gas tank.
I have the same problem you mentioned with the spout diameter being to big (Never heard that before )
(or the saw's tank cap is to small)

May still make a small can that will work form me, & use the spill proof cans to keep filled with fresh mixed gas to fill it.
Gasoline is becoming to expensive to spill it

Dave I think TreePointer was referring to the actual No-Spill brand cans I showed in my earlier post as opposed to the ones in your pic. The ones in your pic will frustrate you to no end.

PS. The no-spill's work great with small tanks on trimmers and saws.

 

[bogydave]

Dave I think TreePointer was referring to the actual No-Spill brand cans I showed in my earlier post as opposed to the ones in your pic. The ones in your pic will frustrate you to no end.

PS. The no-spill's work great with small tanks on trimmers and saws.

The ones I found here are the Briggs & Straton brand, & say now spill on the cans.
I'll look around as I'm out & about, for the "No spill " brand name. : http://www.nospill.com/
It does look more "user friendly"

 

[TreePointer]

Dave I think TreePointer was referring to the actual No-Spill brand cans I showed in my earlier post as opposed to the ones in your pic. The ones in your pic will frustrate you to no end.

PS. The no-spill's work great with small tanks on trimmers and saws.

Yep, I was referring to genuine No-Spill brand cans (www.nospill.com). I have the new version with the view stripe that allows easy determination of fill level.

Blitz cans are bleeyuck!

 

[taxidermist]

My next 1 or 2 gallon gas cans will be this. http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Gallon-Gasoline-Safety-UI10FS/dp/B0002YW4US/ref=pd_sim_lg_5

I have (2) of the 5 gallon versions and could not be happier. The EPA plastic gas cans drove me nuts every time I used them - always spilled gas all over the place!

I am switching to these cans too because they are air tight and fuel stays fresh longer.

Rob

 

[fossil]

...Guy is awful proud of himself though.

Aren't we all...

 

[chuckie5fingers]

My next 1 or 2 gallon gas cans will be this. http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Gallon-Gasoline-Safety-UI10FS/dp/B0002YW4US/ref=pd_sim_lg_5

I have (2) of the 5 gallon versions and could not be happier. The EPA plastic gas cans drove me nuts every time I used them - always spilled gas all over the place!

HAHAHAHA......I worked at a Catholic cemetery years ago as a seasonal employee over the summer cutting grass.
we used those exact same cans, damn near indestructable.
chuck

 

[fossil]

HAHAHAHA......I worked at a Catholic cemetery years ago as a seasonal employee over the summer cutting grass.
we used those exact same cans, damn near indestructable.
chuck

Well, hell, if it's good enough for a Catholic cemetery, it's good enough for me.

 

[bogydave]

I used it again today. I put the spout in the saw as far as it would go.
When I closed it & pulled the spout out, the saw was 99% full & none spilled.
So it does work if the operator uses it right. (so you can teach an old dog, new tricks )

Still gonna look for one with a smaller spout diameter, that will work with both saws.
("No Spill", I like their push button valve control, but not found a dealer in my area yet.)

The small 1 gallon size does make it easy to handle & carry around.
Having two, 1 gallon cans is working too, I rarely use much over a gallon per trip, so I can keep filling the one I empty with fresh gas & always have a full gallon of fresh gas at the P/U.

 

[MasterMech]

I used it again today. I put the spout in the saw as far as it would go.
When I closed it & pulled the spout out, the saw was 99% full & none spilled.
So it does work if the operator uses it right. (so you can teach an old dog, new tricks )

Still gonna look for one with a smaller spout diameter, that will work with both saws.
("No Spill", I like their push button valve control, but not found a dealer in my area yet.)

The small 1 gallon size does make it easy to handle & carry around.
Having two, 1 gallon cans is working too, I rarely use much over a gallon per trip, so I can keep filling the one I empty with fresh gas & always have a full gallon of fresh gas at the P/U.

Stihl dealerships and any OPE dealership with a Stens or Rotary account can get them. That should cover 99.9% of the OPE dealers, lol.

 

[TreePointer]

Around me, I've seen No-Spill products at Stihl dealers and Do It Best hardware stores.

 

[n6crv]

There's a reason these things are taking over the shelves at a whole bunch of OPE dealers around here. They work better than any of the other EPA can out there. They are much thicker walled than the others as well. I'll go so far as to say I like them better than a traditional can for filling small hand-held equipment. I say they are worth a little extra $$.

http://nospill.com/

Try stay focused on the gas cans boys.

Now that is nice Next time I'll check out the can.LOL

 

[Highbeam]

I noticed in the car parts catalog, summit racing is the one, that they sell the same old large 5 gallon fuel jugs that are vented and with a 1" spout for cheap money. They are to be used with "water" though.

I fill the tractor with the walmart blitz 5 gallon cans and no vent. They are slow but do not spill. I lug the full 5 gallon jug up there and dump the whole thing in. As my arms get tired, the weight goes down. As I get older and weaker I may need to mod the cans with vents.

 

[bogydave]

Still looking for the No-Spill brand.
I did find that one of my old jug's cap & flexible spout fit the new 1 gallon cans. I'm using it now & I sure spill less.

 

[pybyr]

Amazon has the No-Spills (as contrasted with- the great accidental but spot-on typo in a prior post above of "now-spill") and if you go over $25 you'll even get the free economy grade shipping. Just ordered one.

 

[bogydave]

Amazon has the No-Spills (as contrasted with- the great accidental but spot-on typo in a prior post above of "now-spill") and if you go over $25 you'll even get the free economy grade shipping. Just ordered one.

Free shipping to Alaska?

 

[firebroad]

I have been using a cap & spout like this on my cans for years. The spout is a pain because you have to hold it open while you pour.

 

[CrufflerJJ]

The No-Spill brand of gas cans are the best of the modern useless gas cans. I like my old Blitz cans where you just pop off the cap at the end of the nozzle, and POUR. No need to cock the spring-loaded valve, hold it "just right" against the lip of whatever you're filling. No need to hold down a spring loaded button while pouring. Just pour.

Of course, that was far too simple for certain elected politikrats.

For longer term storage of gasoline, I use steel jerry cans (with added Pri-G stabilizer). Waaaaay back when, you could get them for $15-$20, delivered. These were Swiss military cans, nice quality. Now, the cheapest mil-surplus steel cans you can find online are nearly $40 each. Oh well.

 

[TreePointer]

I prefer the smaller No-Spill cans for filling smaller OPE like chainsaws, trimmers, blowers, etc. Because the fuel tanks in these machines aren't very large, holding the button while filling isn't burdensome and actually adds more control when you get near full because you don't have to move the entire can to stop the flow.