cost of stihl chain oil is $19.20

[smokinj]

Oh, pile on boys, pile on...

Having been a faller myself, I have called a lot of loggers and fallers I worked with stupid. A lot of them have fingers missing and stuff like that. Must be from their superior mental capacity I guess? Oh yes, I have gotten into a lot of fights in my day too. I call it like I see it.

As for bar oil, that stuff is not good either, but contaminating it with metals an blowby only make it a lot worse. As as I said my father practically drank the stuff, and he died at an early age, in a very ugly way. There are no great bar oil choices out there, but some are certainly better than others. If you wanna swim in toxic metals and blowby, be my guest. Just please stay away from me if you are going to do that though. And good luck when you get older.

B.S.! You should find a Real Cause.......Oh, maybe something that all your expertise would do more good.

 

[ikessky]

I would not recommend that MM, as canola goes rancid in time. Short shelf life and the tendancy of it to gum up and chryatalize are the main issues against using it. That and it does not have a tackifier in it...

FYI, this is bar and chain oil in a 55 gallon drum. I'm not using anything else.

 

[varna]

Good ole' 90w gear oil. when it gets cold below freezing I mix with the cheapest 30w I can get my hands on. Been using it for 30+ years.

 

[MasterMech]

Good ole' 90w gear oil. when it gets cold below freezing I mix with the cheapest 30w I can get my hands on. Been using it for 30+ years.

What's your cost per gallon on that? Gear oil isn't particularly cheap compared to B&C oil or others.

 

[StihlHead]

B.S.! You should find a Real Cause.......Oh, maybe something that all your expertise would do more good.

This is a real cause and I say BS right back to you bubba, if you wanna run used motor oil in your saws. Becasue doing that will cause a lot of harm to you and your saw, as well as to people and critters around you. Heavy metals and blowby are highly toxic. Per your request here, if I can convince only ONE of the readers here on this forum to avoid using used motor oil in a saw to lube the bar, I am doing them and the world around them a lot of good.

I would say the same thing about using TWC marine premix in your saws, which I have argued with other people about on this forum. TWC rated premix oil is not designed to run in air cooled chainsaw engines, and you will be far better served to run JASO FB/FC/FD rated oil, preferebly FC or FD. I would go further to say that you are better off not running chainsaws with high vibration for long periods of time as well, or you are far more likly to develop problems like tendonitis, white finger, and arthritis. For that reason I would avoid running a Stihl 880 and 180 chainsaw, as they all have excessively high vibration ratings which commonly lead to medical problems. However, these two issues only inflict damage on your saw and yourself, so in my view they are far lesser issues than using used bar oil in a saw, which does greater damage than to just you and your saw.

One thing they teach us in avalanche rescue training every year (I am a member of the ski patrol). Humans have the inate problem of following other humans no matter what the risk. For that reason I have to go on search and rescue missions every winter here, and it is the same story over and over again. One person saw another person going out of bounds into a restricted area, and hey, they were fine, so I will be fine.. and whoooomph. Down the mountain they go. If they are buried, they are usually dead within 15 minutes. Then we have to find them and dig them out. While this is dramatic and unrelated to chainsaws, it still illustartes my point; just becasue some people do things and do not think it is a big deal, it does not mean that it is a good thing to do. You have to determine if the risk is worth the reward, and you have to realize that doing some things may well have a lot higher risk than they appear to have. Just becasue some bozo does something and says it is a good thing to do, does not mean it is a good thing to do.

 

[DMZX]

"Humans have the innate problem of following other humans no matter what the risk."

The demographics of skiers/snowboarders and firewood cutters are not at all comparable. The cumulative distribution functions of both populations are vastly different.

 

[JustWood]

,,,,,,, if you wanna run used motor oil in your saws. Becasue doing that will cause a lot of harm to you and your saw, as well as to people and critters around you. Heavy metals and blowby are highly toxic. .

100% of intake air and gas/oil mix goes through the crankcase (= 100% of exhaust IS blowby)of a 2 cycle engine and is exhausted,,,,, into the air ,,,,, everyone breathes!! GAAASP!!
Crankcases are not EVIL ???????? OR,,,,,,,,, mayB you better scrap your saws and start cutting wood with a bowsaw ?????? Your families lives are at stake ya know

 

[RichVT]

I will admit to being old enough to remember when it was common practice to dispose of used motor oil by dumping it in a shallow hole in the back yard.

 

[Jack Straw]

I got 4 gallons of bar oil at TSC for 28$ today, should last me a year!

 

[jeff_t]

I will admit to being old enough to remember when it was common practice to dispose of used motor oil by dumping it in a shallow hole in the back yard.

Also good for dust control.

 

[Backroads]

I got 4 gallons of bar oil at TSC for 28$ today, should last me a year!

Same here. $7 a gallon. Hydraulic oil was on sale 10% off too!!

 

[CaddyUser]

Hi folks,

I've been using the Husqvarna eco oil, which is sunflower and a tackifier for awhile, but switched to canola oil awhile ago because of the price difference. I seem to recall another thread on this awhile ago....

Anyhow, as to the rancid aspect, any of the saws that I store for the off season, I run plain dino bar oil for the last couple of tanks. That way I don't run into problems. Seems to have worked for the past eight or so years that I have done it.....

Oh, and the other plus of running canola? When the bar gets warm when you are cutting, you get a good whiff of what smells like fries cooking!

 

[RichVT]

Also good for dust control.

Just make sure you know what's in your oil.

Anyone remember Times Beach Missouri?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Beach,_Missouri

 

[smokinj]

This is a real cause and I say BS right back to you bubba, if you wanna run used motor oil in your saws. Becasue doing that will cause a lot of harm to you and your saw, as well as to people and critters around you. Heavy metals and blowby are highly toxic. Per your request here, if I can convince only ONE of the readers here on this forum to avoid using used motor oil in a saw to lube the bar, I am doing them and the world around them a lot of good.

I would say the same thing about using TWC marine premix in your saws, which I have argued with other people about on this forum. TWC rated premix oil is not designed to run in air cooled chainsaw engines, and you will be far better served to run JASO FB/FC/FD rated oil, preferebly FC or FD. I would go further to say that you are better off not running chainsaws with high vibration for long periods of time as well, or you are far more likly to develop problems like tendonitis, white finger, and arthritis. For that reason I would avoid running a Stihl 880 and 180 chainsaw, as they all have excessively high vibration ratings which commonly lead to medical problems. However, these two issues only inflict damage on your saw and yourself, so in my view they are far lesser issues than using used bar oil in a saw, which does greater damage than to just you and your saw.

One thing they teach us in avalanche rescue training every year (I am a member of the ski patrol). Humans have the inate problem of following other humans no matter what the risk. For that reason I have to go on search and rescue missions every winter here, and it is the same story over and over again. One person saw another person going out of bounds into a restricted area, and hey, they were fine, so I will be fine.. and whoooomph. Down the mountain they go. If they are buried, they are usually dead within 15 minutes. Then we have to find them and dig them out. While this is dramatic and unrelated to chainsaws, it still illustartes my point; just becasue some people do things and do not think it is a big deal, it does not mean that it is a good thing to do. You have to determine if the risk is worth the reward, and you have to realize that doing some things may well have a lot higher risk than they appear to have. Just becasue some bozo does something and says it is a good thing to do, does not mean it is a good thing to do.

LOL, I never said anything about used motor oil Just the fact you have never been a logger! Never will be. What I dont need or ever will is you saving my family! (Only guy in the world who can save my my my family in the gear fourm)

 

[StihlHead]

Ba ha ha ha ha! I have never been a logger? That would be wrong there, but then you do not know me or who I am, and where I have been a faller (hint: California falling redwoods and OR falling many many many types of big trees). I have also owned and logged several hundred acres of tree stands in the Coastal range. But then, what do you know? Obviously nothing.

Man, you remind me of the worst mofo's over on arboristshyte...