He never said that Jay. Insulate, and seal your shack a little. Most I've ever burned is about 1.5 bags 2 at the absolute most. 2000 sq ft.
Pellets, Pellets, Pellets !
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jtakeman
Minister of Fire
Who asked you? You have a very good pellet not the sludge we get out here! Thats what I'm getting at. Go get some horrid stuff and see how many bags you'd need on the coldest night of the season and then compare to the good chit! Do you burn the cheapest stuff and claim it runs with the better stuff too? And you use the same amount with the cheap stuff as compared to the good stuff? Really?
My shack is sealed pretty well, I bet I burned less than many in my area heating the same size. My near 2K only needed a few bags over 2 tons last season. But I would have burned over 3 with some of the crummy crap thats out there! And I bet I keep my shed warmer than most. If you read what I posted I only use 2 on the coldest days of the good stuff that is! When I try the meh stuff my usage goes up! So insulate this!
If you get something different? good for you! I don't see it and have been at it a long time! I'll stick with my plan. Tough noogies if you don't like it!
allFIREDup
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No whole in the wall. Its call no octane in the tank!
So your saying you use the same amount of fuel no matter what the outside temp is? Yeah OK, I won't buy into that! I see you have maybe one full year under your belt, And last winter was rather warm. I'm betting a solid week of -20ºF might change your tune!
obviously, I use more when the outside temp dips, but no more than 2 bags. It's a little colder in my neck of the woods....north of CT. I'm just not convinced that a "high quality" pellet is that much more superior than a GS type pellet and you burn over a bag less a day during the coldest period in CT. GS's are 4.18 a bag if you buy a ton and much less than that if you buy it spring or summer price. Your math is like Romney's. I hope i'm not getting you as worked up and hot as your high octane pellets.
jtakeman
Minister of Fire
I used to buy New Englands at ?205.00 per ton @ a 26 ton truckload. No more. I've got over 4 tons left over that I HAVE to burn up. We bought 12 tons for me and 2 other family members. Barefoot super premium...$250 per ton delivered. My parents and brother bought the bulk of the delivery, they are impressed so far.
subsailor
Minister of Fire
Too many variables to get too worked up over. Look at it over a season and 5 tons of MWP @ $197 vs 4 tons of Oakies @$300 works for me.
allFIREDup
Member
No problem, i'm just happy I keep my house at 75 degrees in the winter and spend alot less than you do........that's the name of the game and the bottom line. I'm just trying to get facts on this site....not malarkey.
Just sayin, after burning inferior products with less heat and lots of ash, I will be happy to burn more expensive pellets if they perform better.
jtakeman
Minister of Fire
Facts? What facts! Your facts are only here say. I see no proof to what you are slingin! Do you work for NEWP?
Are you insinuating I'm full of malarkey? Dude, You don't know me and you might wanna take a look at my merits before you judge! I'm the nerd with the hour meter and the temp probe on the stove. Just how many pellets have you reviewed?
SmokeyTheBear
Minister of Fire
Just be careful what you may think is a fact may not be.
Solid fuels have a number of issues that really muck up the works, one of which is consistency.
Conduct a few experiments and you may discover that a lot of things are not as you might expect from reading the numbers on the bags.
And yes I know that controlling outside variables for the experiments is a very hard thing to do. That is why the test labs use some pretty expensive equipment.
You folks with Harman stoves need to understand that your stove is always mucking with the fuel/air ratio which within some limits compensates for the ash build up in the stove breathing facilities (but only to a certain point).
I laid out what the ash and fines (and other stuff) do to the stoves and I made no mention of absolute dollars just that you do need to do the math.
There also comes the point in burning to keep warm that a stove burning those cheaper pellets may leave you cold because you simply can't get enough BTUs through the stove
You also need to understand that my proposed test is to determine a de-rate factor and it doesn't need to be controlled for pellet sizes as the end result is related to the same pellet. the only thing that screws up the little experiment is batch consistency which is usually maintained better by the high end pellet makers.
J? I'm looking at Enviro Maxx, Any suggestions? Running 2008 Big E now...no problems, pretty well got this thing figuired out. Can diagnose in my sleep. read all your reports, checked prices and shopped aroung. settled with Barefoot super premium. Just don't want to get into something bigger or complex than what I need. See you have an Enviro now. Any thoughts?
jtakeman
Minister of Fire
IHATEPROPANE
Minister of Fire
Allfiredup have you burned many kinds of pellets for long periods if time? A few bags is really hard to tell how well they perform heat wise unless you have a controlled environment.....experience is the next best thing. From my limited experience there are a few really bad pellets and and few really good ones where heat output and pellet usage is rather obvious...say Inferno versus Vermont.....for the most part there is a whole bunch of brands in the middle that will put out very comparable heat. The easiest thing for me to rate a pellet by is ash......lower ash is convenient for me and worth a little extra money...
Holy Chit.... Where did this thread come from???
I know where its headed
Starts with Ash and ends with........
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schoondog
Feeling the Heat
Dude, not interested in your malarky. We are giving you the facts. If you don't accept it fine. But don't give people bad advice based on your entire one year of burning pellets in your new 4 year old component filled stove. Facts are you don't have to spend alot more money to find a better pellet. BTU in is BTU out. Come back and tell us whats what when you have 10k posts and 3 years of real data, not 33 posts and 1 year of burn time.
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allFIREDup
Member
If i go out and buy 2 1/2 tons of barefoots Vs. 2 1/2 tons of GS's for fuel to keep my house at 75 degrees all winter? Roughly, how many bags less do you think I will burn using barefoot based on your scientific research? 2 1/2 tons is what i used last year. Will I use half a ton less what does your scientific research say? No I don't work for NEWP just curious. Use last years data since we know what the winter was like and that i used 2 1/2 tons.
allFIREDup
Member
The money your spending on higher priced pellets could have been used to buy a more economical and higher quality stove than what you have. When you get a better quality stove come back and tell us about your experience.
schoondog
Feeling the Heat
I'll send ya half the money I saved between our stoves to get some real pellets and some brains. Mine had new parts too. You are so practical.and funny.
Schoondog
I thought this was headed to the Ash can........
Gone farther than that now.
allFIREDup.... You are living up to your name.
Gone farther than that now.
allFIREDup.... You are living up to your name.
allFIREDup
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funny how you're so concerned about high quality pellets but not so concerned about having a low quality stove. I think it's you that needs a little brains. The dealer was more than happy to give me a new motor no questions asked and gleason- avery was more than willing to send me another when i called them. Not Malarkey but fact....a Harman will last a lot longer and hold its value better than that stove you have.
schoondog
Feeling the Heat
More facts. You are facinating. Tell me more. Order more parts first. I would get a few tons of Infernos next. Your really building up your post count too.
Don't be mad because my cheap stove is a better deal than your new/used stove. And you overpay for pellets that will cause your used stove to fail prematurely.
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schoondog
Feeling the Heat
Huh, all I was doing was innocently looking for some insight on the pellets in my area!! Never thought that it would go in this direction.
Your right 83. I owe you an apology. You came to the right place for pellet info and we will help you get it. Listen to Jtakeman,smokey,dexter and the guys who have been doing this for awhile. I got a little torqued and off topic. Sorry. Get several bags of different pellets and a thermometer. Record some temps at the same stove settings and see what pellet your stove likes. Get a list of available pellets in your area and do a search here for each and you will get a good feel for what we like. Then purchase several bags of each to take your readings. It will take a little work/time to find your favorite pellet/pellets. Its part of the fun.For what is worth I'm a Somerset fan.
Schoondog
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