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corey21

Minister of Fire
Oct 28, 2010
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I have been having issues with the Mag and i have reached a decision that i am going to sell it. One day it will hold a fire the next is a different story the burn times are to short like 2 to 4 hours got 9 hours one time this year. Another thing is that it is so dang unpredictable i just want it out of my hair. May take some time before i do sell it but i feel sorry for the person that buys it.
 
I do have one question i payed $1500 for it how much could i sell it for?
 
What type of wood? reason, type of fuel has significant impact on burn time as I am sure you are aware. Also what do you consider burn time, expectations can vary quite a bit from person to person.
Oak, Hickory, Sugar maple, Beech to name a few will give longest useable heat cycle. Types like Silver maple, Piss Elm ( can't think of the proper name), Box Elder and others of this type while still considered a hard wood have a very light density vs first few I mentioned and provide a significantly shorter usable heat cycle.
I have a Englander 30 about the same size.and output specs. Silver maple couple hours of flame then coals nt a terrific amount of heat output, on the other hand same physical amount of Sugar maple will blast you out of the room for several hours.
As far as whats worth on the used market, difficult to judge as each location will vary some, Bit of a nitche market as well. Clearance sales will be starting up shortly on these types of items at up to 40% off retail.
 
What type of wood? reason, type of fuel has significant impact on burn time as I am sure you are aware. Also what do you consider burn time, expectations can vary quite a bit from person to person.
Oak, Hickory, Sugar maple, Beech to name a few will give longest useable heat cycle. Types like Silver maple, Piss Elm ( can't think of the proper name), Box Elder and others of this type while still considered a hard wood have a very light density vs first few I mentioned and provide a significantly shorter usable heat cycle.
I have a Englander 30 about the same size.and output specs. Silver maple couple hours of flame then coals nt a terrific amount of heat output, on the other hand same physical amount of Sugar maple will blast you out of the room for several hours.
As far as whats worth on the used market, difficult to judge as each location will vary some, Bit of a nitche market as well. Clearance sales will be starting up shortly on these types of items at up to 40% off retail.
Been burning oak black gum birch sycamore it ant just the burn time it is the unpredictable part that drives me crazy a long with some other issues.
 
I do have one question i payed $1500 for it how much could i sell it for?
Seems like a lot? I got one of their country hearth 2000 models for $499 a 2 CU ft stove and i cant say enough good things about it.
For such a small stove it really drives you out with the heat,goes right up to 700deg stovetop with just a few pieces of wood,great secondaries,glass stays clean.As far as burn times just like blades said,it all depends on what you put in it. Although a few years ago i bought one of their Non EPA stoves the "king" and it was so bad(burn times 2-3 hours) i gave it away.
 
I have been having issues with the Mag and i have reached a decision that i am going to sell it. One day it will hold a fire the next is a different story the burn times are to short like 2 to 4 hours got 9 hours one time this year. Another thing is that it is so dang unpredictable i just want it out of my hair. May take some time before i do sell it but i feel sorry for the person that buys it.
Are you absolutely sure there aren't issues outside of the stoves capabilities that are effecting it's performance.

It would be a shame to sell the stove at a loss, buy a new stove, and then still have the same issues.
 
Seems like a lot? I got one of their country hearth 2000 models for $499 a 2 CU ft stove and i cant say enough good things about it.
For such a small stove it really drives you out with the heat,goes right up to 700deg stovetop with just a few pieces of wood,great secondaries,glass stays clean.As far as burn times just like blades said,it all depends on what you put in it. Although a few years ago i bought one of their Non EPA stoves the "king" and it was so bad(burn times 2-3 hours) i gave it away.

Yeah i think i gave to much for it. I paid $700 for the Wonder Coal and it done far better when i had it in the house.
Are you absolutely sure there aren't issues outside of the stoves capabilities that are effecting it's performance.

It would be a shame to sell the stove at a loss, buy a new stove, and then still have the same issues.
I am going to look thinks over when i calm down right now i am ready to put a sheet over it.

I hate to say it but i think i got ripped off from day one.
 
Just for thought could someone point me to some stoves along the same price that are good quality?
 
Just for thought could someone point me to some stoves along the same price that are good quality?
What size firebox is the 2015?
 
Are you absolutely sure there aren't issues outside of the stoves capabilities that are effecting it's performance.
It would be a shame to sell the stove at a loss, buy a new stove, and then still have the same issues.
I am going to look thinks over when i calm down
That's what I'd do. I would try to hang in there with the Mag for the time being. That way, you'll have time to put a lot of thought toward what you want in your next stove. You can also be looking at craiglist etc. and maybe find a great deal on a used stove. Hopefully, you've got a decent amount of Oak on hand now to get you some overnight burns, and you can burn the lesser woods during the day and reload when you need to. When you get up into your White Oaks, Hickories, Locusts etc. your burn times go up substantially...
Like BAR said, look for other issues that might be causing shorter/unpredictable burn times. All I can think of right now is a gasket leak or too strong of draft. Can you burn the stove low, or are you fighting to keep the stove under control? Latter might indicate that you don't have enough control over the air...
 
What size firebox is the 2015?
According to the website, it is "spacious." ==c It does take a 19.5" log... I think I saw one at TSC or Menards a while back, and it was pretty good-sized IIRC.
 
What size firebox is the 2015?
3.2 Cubic feet.
That's what I'd do. I would try to hang in there with the Mag for the time being. That way, you'll have time to put a lot of thought toward what you want in your next stove. You can also be looking at craiglist etc. and maybe find a great deal on a used stove. Hopefully, you've got a decent amount of Oak on hand now to get you some overnight burns, and you can burn the lesser woods during the day and reload when you need to. When you get up into your White Oaks, Hickories, Locusts etc. your burn times go up substantially...
Like BAR said, look for other issues that might be causing shorter/unpredictable burn times. All I can think of right now is a gasket leak or too strong of draft. Can you burn the stove low, or are you fighting to keep the stove under control? Latter might indicate that you don't have enough control over the air...
Last year i replaced the window gasket this year i replaced the door gasket.
 
3.2 Cubic feet.
I hate schilling a stove that I own, but you can get the 30 for $600-$900.

I know Drolet also has a 3+ cu ft stove.
 
Also, is it rainy, foggy, and generally crappy out over there? That could be the problem with getting the stove to get going... today at least.
 
It does good control burning real small loads but when i put more then 3 splits in it gets very unpredictable. I just want a stove that i can trust well you get the idea i hope.
 
I get it cruising and the temps will rise fast then go back down Its like when i close the air the fire keeps going not secondary burn. I checked the air control rod it is working.
 
I get it cruising and the temps will rise fast then go back down Its like when i close the air the fire keeps going not secondary burn. I checked the air control rod it is workink.
How high do the temps rise?
How far do the temps drop?
Why do the temps drop? Does it coincide with adjusting the air controls?
What does the Fire look like? Don't be too concerned with secondaries.
 
How high do the temps rise?
How far do the temps drop?
Why do the temps drop? Does it coincide with adjusting the air controls?
What does the Fire look like? Don't be too concerned with secondaries.

It has rose from 500 to 700 before with the air open just a crack.

About the temps dropping i was talking about burn times.

I don't see much lazy secondary burn It looks a crazy primary fire.

With my old stove i could go all night most of the time and it was a stable fire.
 
It has rose from 500 to 700 before with the air open just a crack.
Normal

About the temps dropping i was talking about burn times.
How long are the burn times? Temps drop as the burn cycle progresses.

I don't see much lazy secondary burn It looks a crazy primary fire.
Take a photo. The secondaries aren't always lazy.

With my old stove i could go all night most of the time and it was a stable fire.
What was your old stove? How size was it?
 
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