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Understood, but if it topped out at 800, sure, it's hot, but it should be manageable and not a cause for fear.

I don't fear it i just would like it to be more controllable a 800 stove is really not needed to heat my house. I would be happy if i get longer burns and have it top out at like 650. But maybe split size comes in to play here my birch is a little on the small size.
 
I mean the length of the birch.
 
I don't fear it i just would like it to be more controllable a 800 stove is really not needed to heat my house. I would be happy if i get longer burns and have it top out at like 650. But maybe split size comes in to play here my birch is a little on the small size.
With some non-cat stoves, they like to run hot. Trying to limit the stove temp to your expectations may not always be something that can be accomplished.

I'm not saying 800 is good or bad. I'm saying it may be the nature of the beast. I put a full load in the 30 I will fully expect stove top temps between 700-750 with good wood and the air shut down. Sometimes as high as 770. Which isn't far from 800.

The interesting thing is that you need 550 degree stove temps to maintain you 1800 sq ft house temps. That seems a bit high considering we aren't even in the thick of winter yet. What house temps are you getting when the stove is at 550 degrees?
 
internal pipe temp is just 450.
Are you talking stove pipe internal. If so then external would be about half assuming single wall and that would be what I would see too. I also have awesome draft.
 
With some non-cat stoves, they like to run hot. Trying to limit the stove temp to your expectations may not always be something that can be accomplished.

I'm not saying 800 is good or bad. I'm saying it may be the nature of the beast. I put a full load in the 30 I will fully expect stove top temps between 700-750 with good wood and the air shut down. Sometimes as high as 770. Which isn't far from 800.

The interesting thing is that you need 550 degree stove temps to maintain you 1800 sq ft house temps. That seems a bit high considering we aren't even in the thick of winter yet. What house temps are you getting when the stove is at 550 degrees?
I run my Elm 700-800 daily now myself. Even had it too 900 the other night. It was in the 40s and the 1st floor only got 73 degrees. (1st floor stove almost ready to go)
 
Are you talking stove pipe internal. If so then external would be about half assuming single wall and that would be what I would see too. I also have awesome draft.
200-270 surface temps is what I see on the 30. Which is about the same as what you and Corey are/were experiencing.
 
I run my Elm 700-800 daily now myself. Even had it too 900 the other night. It was in the 40s and the 1st floor only got 73 degrees. (1st floor stove almost ready to go)
900 degrees on the 30" Elm must have been throwing a violent amount of heat.
 
With some non-cat stoves, they like to run hot. Trying to limit the stove temp to your expectations may not always be something that can be accomplished.

I'm not saying 800 is good or bad. I'm saying it may be the nature of the beast. I put a full load in the 30 I will fully expect stove top temps between 700-750 with good wood and the air shut down. Sometimes as high as 770. Which isn't far from 800.

The interesting thing is that you need 550 degree stove temps to maintain you 1800 sq ft house temps. That seems a bit high considering we aren't even in the thick of winter yet. What house temps are you getting when the stove is at 550 degrees?

Right now it is 39 outside and in the living room is 82 and the stove is in coal stage and at 470 been at that a few hours.

I gave you 550 as a estimate at the time it really depends on out side temp but i will say right now it is a little warm in here.
 
Right now it is 39 outside and in the living room is 82 and the stove is in coal stage and at 470 been at that a few hours.

I gave you 550 as a estimate at the time it really depends on out side temp but i will say right now it is a little warm in here.
Good to know. And good to hear you are warm and not cold and frustrated. That's progress.
 
Good to know. And good to hear you are warm and not cold and frustrated. That's progress.
yeah i am making progress.

My birch were cut real small length i have other wood but i have been saving that.

Could that be an issue the short birch?
 
yeah i am making progress.

My birch were cut real small length i have other wood but i have been saving that.

Could that be an issue the short birch?
Does this mean you are using 4-5 pieces of this short Birch splits?
 
14 inches a few are 18.
 
14 inches a few are 18.
The stove can fit 20" logs. and you are filling it probably 40-50% based on split length and amount of splits you are using. I would say this is heavily contributing to your 4 hour burn times.
 
The stove can fit 20" logs. and you are filling it probably 40-50% based on split length and amount of splits you are using. I would say this is heavily contributing to your 4 hour burn times.

Yeah and after last night i am thinking more straight now.

The reason i am burning this i am trying to save my bigger wood for like January.

I just thought that split length would not matter i was wrong.
 
Yeah and after last night i am thinking more straight now.

The reason i am burning this i am trying to save my bigger wood for like January.
Nothing wrong with that. But, at the split size you are at, you could probably fit 10+ splits into that firebox. I bet that would give you 8 hours of usable heat. Maybe more.
 
Nothing wrong with that. But, at the split size you are at, you could probably fit 10+ splits into that firebox. I bet that would give you 8 hours of usable heat. Maybe more.

Then in turn not allow as much air to penetrate the load. I mean with just 4 or 5 splits in the load gets more air in it..
 
I feel pretty ;em today and here i was wanting to replace the Mag.

Thank you all for helping me.
 
I feel pretty ;em today and here i was wanting to replace the Mag.

Thank you all for helping me.
In the end, maybe you will still feel that way. At the very least, you will feel a little better about burning with this stove and it will be less frustrating using it.
 
In the end, maybe you will still feel that way. At the very least, you will feel a little better about burning with this stove and it will be less frustrating using it.
I have a plan Friday it is going to be really cold and i am going to bring my wood in and do a real load then I will let you know about the burn times. But after today i will expect to see it in the 700 to 800 range after getting it dialed in.
 
900 degrees on the 30" Elm must have been throwing a violent amount of heat.
I started to smell paint which means I hit a new high. I watched it for a while that night to make sure it wasn't going thermal nuclear.
 
have a plan Friday it is going to be really cold and i am going to bring my wood in and do a real load then I will let you know about the burn times. But after today i will expect to see it in the 700 to 800 range after getting it dialed in.
Be careful. I have found out myself on more than one stove flat pieces of steel with stuff welded to them don't like real high heat cycles.
 
Be careful. I have found out myself on more than one stove flat pieces of steel with stuff welded to them don't like real high heat cycles.
He should be fine.
 
I have a plan Friday it is going to be really cold and i am going to bring my wood in and do a real load then I will let you know about the burn times. But after today i will expect to see it in the 700 to 800 range after getting it dialed in.
Try to find a camera to take some pics of how you are loading the stove and what the fire looks like. If everyone can confirm that there is nothing strange going on, it will put your mind at ease even more.
 
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