750lbs 3 stories, no problem! Progress Hyrbrid install pics

[Machria]

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Machria,
I see you have joined the family of PH owners that none-owners often believe to be exaggerating. We owners find it hard to not respond to the "observors" who claim this stove is a failure in design....now you know first hand why. An absolutley fabulous, beautiful, owner friendly, safe stove that is ultimately controllable and will heat your home whether it is 55 degrees or minus 35 out.
So glad Woodstock designed and built this stove. It was worth the 6 plus year wait with my FIreview (also a beloved stove, perfect for the slightly smaller home).

I beleive!

Hmm I thought the feedback was pretty positive on the PH.. Seen it in person and loved the secondaries on that stove!

Ray

I beleive he was referring to a few of the comments/arguments that were made in another of my threads a few weeks ago.

 

[Todd 2]

Very nice Machria, what a well thought out plan an install, looks awesome. Seems like forever till you get your first eye opening look at the stove when you finally get to open the crate, then all the issues getting it there seem to fade away. What did you think of the first fires(the Flame Show, I call it) I have cleaned the glass more on this stove in a month than three years on the other one, the look and performance still amaze me.
Your views look great inside and out Guy, looks like the place we rented last year on vacation (minus the stove)
Welcome to the Woodstock Rock Club, Enjoy ! Todd2 great pics too, I think this install tips the scales !

 

[begreen]

Are you monitoring the temps in the cavity behind the stove? I was wondering how that's doing?

 

[NickDL]

That is one beautiful setup, congrats.

 

[Machria]

Are you monitoring the temps in the cavity behind the stove? I was wondering how that's doing?

It's room temperature, 70 or 80 in there, no issues there at all. I think I see where the extra heat on the right side ones from, the door side had a lot of cast iron. The door frame, the door itself is also framed, and the are bunched up against the corner rail/frame going up the stove. If I put my hand a few inches from that spot on the corner, there is a lot of radiant heat. Not half as much in the same spot on the opposite side of the stove (non door side).

 

[gmule]

Thanks for the compliments, as most of you know probably know, it's MUCH nicer in person! Especially when you can feel the heat.

Beautiful on all accounts. Thanks for sharing

 

[Machria]

I am interested to hear how the powered vent does to move the heat from upstairs to downstairs. I am guessing that is the vent at the very top of the new tile work? Moving air around is always an interesting topic..

Update for ya: Got the inline fan up and running, ran it two nights so far. Works pretty good, and I got an un-expected benift from it I had not thought of. Since the stove is s a bit of an overkill for my space, and I'm still learning how to burn it and specifically keep it's output low (it has not been very cold), the powered vent is not only heating our bedroom nicely, it is also getting rid of some of the heat overage in the great room where the stove is. It's an obvious affect of moving heat from one room to another, but I hadn't thought of that. Anyway, with overnight outside temps of 25 to 30, 4 splits are burning about 12 hours (stove top ending at ~200*). Stove room is 70 to 80*, and the bedroom below (with heat set off) is holding at about 66 to 68. Very happy with the setup, it was alot of extra work, but well worth it. I'll burn ALOT less oil because of it, and it is drawing some excess heat from the stove room.

Got the 4" inline blower and simple on/off/speed controller at Grainger: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/FANTECH-Inline-Centrifugal-Duct-Fan-5C516

Here's what the inline blower and output duct looks like installed:

 

[ClanCameron]

Update for ya: Got the inline fan up and running, ran it two nights so far. Works pretty good, and I got an un-expected benift from it I had not thought of. Since the stove is s a bit of an overkill for my space, and I'm still learning how to burn it and specifically keep it's output low (it has not been very cold), the powered vent is not only heating our bedroom nicely, it is also getting rid of some of the heat overage in the great room where the stove is. It's an obvious affect of moving heat from one room to another, but I hadn't thought of that. Anyway, with overnight outside temps of 25 to 30, 4 splits are burning about 12 hours (stove top ending at ~200*). Stove room is 70 to 80*, and the bedroom below (with heat set off) is holding at about 66 to 68. Very happy with the setup, it was alot of extra work, but well worth it. I'll burn ALOT less oil because of it, and it is drawing some excess heat from the stove room.

Got the 4" inline blower and simple on/off/speed controller at Grainger: http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/FANTECH-Inline-Centrifugal-Duct-Fan-5C516

Here's what the inline blower and output duct looks like installed:

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The inline fan is what we're going with (Woodstock Progress Hybrid, downstairs stove, upstairs heating) thread, wanting to move air from down to up. However, the diameter of the 15' duct run is going to be much wider to move a lot more, 12", whatever the space can hold. Fingers-crossed.

 

[Dakotas Dad]

The inline fan is what we're going with (Woodstock Progress Hybrid, downstairs stove, upstairs heating) thread, wanting to move air from down to up. However, the diameter of the 15' duct run is going to be much wider to move a lot more, 12", whatever the space can hold. Fingers-crossed.

Very few people find a need to force the warm air up.. We do nothing of the sort, and you can stand in our bedroom and feel the warm air coming up the stairs at a good clip.. We do use a small "table" fan on the floor in the dining room, blowing into the living room, helps to keep the living room from being to warm for me.. (No such condition exists for her)

 

[ClanCameron]

Very few people find a need to force the warm air up.. We do nothing of the sort, and you can stand in our bedroom and feel the warm air coming up the stairs at a good clip.. We do use a small "table" fan on the floor in the dining room, blowing into the living room, helps to keep the living room from being to warm for me.. (No such condition exists for her)

We hear that. We have a passive air return in the house, not ducted return, meaning air is flow from up to down mostly the stairway, some other behind-wall areas, so we're salmon going upstream. In general, we can't put floor registers in for air to float up coz of this. However, we may not need the diameter to be as wide as 12", maybe 8" will do. New room will be shelled in by this coming weekend, then we'll see better what we've got before hvac and foaming. I'll post pix if I can find the damn usb upload wire to my camera.

 

[Machria]

The inline fan is what we're going with (Woodstock Progress Hybrid, downstairs stove, upstairs heating) thread, wanting to move air from down to up. However, the diameter of the 15' duct run is going to be much wider to move a lot more, 12", whatever the space can hold. Fingers-crossed.

If you can get a 10 or 12" duct with a inline fan in there, you will make upper rooms as hot as you want. Make sure you get a speed controllable fan, and install a speed controller (basically just a solid state rayostat). That way you can tone it down if needed.

I would have loved to use a larger diameter duct, but I had some serious obstacles to zig zag around to get it where I was going... all in existing work, not new work (aka was trying not to rip the drywall out in every room in the house! ). But I'm actually surprised how much air is being moved. The 4" fan is rated at 122cfm with no pressure, but I have some serious pressure as I'm using flex pipe (rough inside), lots of bends and winding, and it's a LONG run, so I'm sure I'm not getting anywhere near that. But I'm moving more air than I anticipated which is good. I can turn the heat off, and heat the great room, and our master bedroom enough. The other 1st floor rooms get chilly, 62 to 65, but that is fine, nobody is in them 95% of the time. If we use them, we can simply burn some Arabian dunkel beer!

 

[ClanCameron]

If you can get a 10 or 12" duct with a inline fan in there, you will make upper rooms as hot as you want. Make sure you get a speed controllable fan, and install a speed controller (basically just a solid state rayostat). That way you can tone it down if needed.

I would have loved to use a larger diameter duct, but I had some serious obstacles to zig zag around to get it where I was going... all in existing work, not new work (aka was trying not to rip the drywall out in every room in the house! ). But I'm actually surprised how much air is being moved. The 4" fan is rated at 122cfm with no pressure, but I have some serious pressure as I'm using flex pipe (rough inside), lots of bends and winding, and it's a LONG run, so I'm sure I'm not getting anywhere near that. But I'm moving more air than I anticipated which is good. I can turn the heat off, and heat the great room, and our master bedroom enough. The other 1st floor rooms get chilly, 62 to 65, but that is fine, nobody is in them 95% of the time. If we use them, we can simply burn some Arabian dunkel beer!

erdinger dunkel beer, eh? vas ist arabian dunkel beer?

 

[Machria]

erdinger dunkel beer, eh? vas ist arabian dunkel beer?

Heizöl

 

[ScotO]

Machria, that looks fantastic! I don't know how in the heck I missed this thread, but I probably was stoned (literally) as I was in the middle of stoning my own install when you posted this. Anyway, I love it! How is that inline fan working? does it move the air good?

I'm looking at getting an 8" version of that inline fan for my heat runs out of my NZ3000. That would probably be perfect for pulling that heat down and into the basement where I want to split it into three runs......

 

[Machria]

Machria, that looks fantastic! I don't know how in the heck I missed this thread, but I probably was stoned (literally) as I was in the middle of stoning my own install when you posted this. Anyway, I love it! How is that inline fan working? does it move the air good?

I'm looking at getting an 8" version of that inline fan for my heat runs out of my NZ3000. That would probably be perfect for pulling that heat down and into the basement where I want to split it into three runs......

Thanks.... been enjoying it! Your going to enjoy the hell out of all that stone!

The 4" inline fan is working better than I anticipated, wasn't expecting much out of it, but thought it would be better than nothing. As you must know, a 4" duct is pretty small, in addition I've got about a 30' run of it with flex duct from high above the stove, down behind it, then across the joicing below with a few zig zags to get over a header (bathroom is below) and into our bedroom (the next room over from under the stove). The fan is 122cfm, and only uses 19 watts, running it all night will use little power. You can hear it but it's not very loud, you mostly just hear the wind sound from the air moving thru the rough flexible duct pipe. We have a ceiling fan over the bed that I could not sleep without it being on, something about the light wind noise it makes, and the feel of air moving around. Well, I can now turn that off, and leave the inline fan on. I get a similar sound as with the ceiling fan, and similar feel of air movement. The bonus is the air is warm, yet the burner is not running! I used a normal 4" x 10" register (from Home depot..) for the register in the ceiling and when you put your hand 1 or 2 feet from it, you can feel a blast of air coming out, just as if the heater or AC blower was running and you are feeling the regular registers. Pretty cool. I now leave the thermestat set on 63* when the stove is burning and the inline fan on. There is a very noticable difference in temp between upstairs where the stove is, and downstairs where the heat is set at 63, but the heat is not running, and it's comfy enough to sleep. Without the fan on, it get very cold down there, so it makes a huge difference.

If you have more than one 8"er, and it's coming right off the stove/fireplace like yours, it's going to be blasing heat!

 

[PapaDave]

Someone did a nice job installing that.
I like those duct clamps.....they'll keep the duct from getting pinched and reducing flow.