Rough Duty/Shatter Proof Light Bulb Warning

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And the gasses from the carpeting, furniture, wiring, etc, will be even worse than from a couple of pans.
 
Dune said:
The worst danger from teflon pans (fatal) is in the event of a house fire.
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The single biggest reason we started wearing SCBA for dumpster fires. At least that's what they told us twenty years ago.

How about silicone coated bulbs? They are required in foodservice.
 
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Hogwildz said:
Back in the late 80s, I rented a place with my sister and her BF. Sis was away at work, and the BF was cooking something in a non-stick pan, was drunk and forgot about the pan & what he was cooking. Burned the meal and the off gassing of the teflon on the pan killed all 10 of her finch birds. He went out and bought 10 new ones thinking she wouldn't notice the difference, she did.
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I woulda tried the same thing.
 
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woodgeek said:
Looks like some provinces are ahead of the US....other not so much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs#Canada

seems you are safe in Quebec, for the time being.
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Cuba is way ahead of us and banned them in 2005! There are cases where incandescent are efficient if used in a heat application and I still feel it should be a matter of choice. Most of my lights are CFL, especially lights that are on for long periods of time. I tried CFL globe lights in the bathroom and they are terrible with long warm up time and they failed quickly due to frequent on-off cycling something that CFL's dislike so I went back to incandescent lamps there. LED's are great but they are still in their infancy for general lighting purposes and I feel they will become inexpensive eventually and especially if the power companies subsidize them like they did with CFL's..

Ray
 
Hearth Mistress said:
I have a cockatiel and use teflon pans, every now an then - he is almost 20. The issue is proximity, these bulbs in a barn have the potential to kill chickens, or there have been enough accounts that manufacturers put a warning on them now. If you put one in a lamp that is in the room with your pet bird, good chance it could be a danger. If you cook in teflon on a occasion, as I do and the bird is clear across the house on a totally different floor, the risk is minimal.

I just posted it figuring that with all the folks here, they may be a few homesteaders that raise chickens and this was the first I've ever heard of light bulbs being a cause if death for birds.
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Yep...My teflon pan kills the chicken breast every time!! Tastey too!!
 
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Eatonpcat said:
Yep...My teflon pan kills the chicken breast every time!! Tastey too!!
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Apparently, things didn't pan out for the chicken.
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Quoting someone else, i forget who, "The only thing dumber than using regular incandescent bulbs, is stocking up on them".

I understand that there may be some specialized uses (using them for their heat output for birds for example). But beyond that, i have no idea why you would use them. i have switched out my whole house to CFL. The only incandescent that is used is on a 3 way switch that has 2 of the light up switches, as such, about 15 volts leak through to it, so if a CFL is used it flickers. I have outside light timers that say they are only designed for incandescent, but the CFL work great.

The bulbs last way longer and cost much less to run. The light output is great, and if you buy smartly, the light color is great. its a clear winner... until you start looking at LED, I havent switched to them yet.
 
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CFLs are good in certain applications - until you break one. They contain mercury, and the phosphor is something you don't want to breathe.
 
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heat seeker said:
CFLs are good in certain applications - until you break one. They contain mercury, and the phosphor is something you don't want to breathe.
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Not to mention they are hazardous waste and I am sure the landfills are loaded with them too..
 
here is how to clean it up:
http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflcleanup.html

On the global scale, they are way better off than the extra power used.

At home, well, I dont make it a habit to break lights. And the small amount of ash in my house from the stove is probably of great concern, as are the handful of potato chips i just ate.

to each their own.
 
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Almost nobody plans on breaking them - that's why they call them accidents. I have a bunch in my house. I'm not against them, I am against someone telling me what I can use for light. There are applications where they are not a good choice.
 
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jharkin said:
Ray, thanks I bet I would. I switched end to mostly CFLs due to being cheap, but when I tried my first HD/Cree LED in the kitchen I was so impressed I've gotten quite interested in high end lighting. My wife thinks I have an eccentric light bulb addiction now..........
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She's probably right. I had the same urge after seeing the light of the Cree. Fortunately the price cured me. Well, that and I have a stock of CFLs that will last about 5 yrs.. Hopefully by then the Cree price will drop to something reasonable.
 
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raybonz said:
Cuba is way ahead of us and banned them in 2005! There are cases where incandescent are efficient if used in a heat application and I still feel it should be a matter of choice. Most of my lights are CFL, especially lights that are on for long periods of time. I tried CFL globe lights in the bathroom and they are terrible with long warm up time and they failed quickly due to frequent on-off cycling something that CFL's dislike so I went back to incandescent lamps there. LED's are great but they are still in their infancy for general lighting purposes and I feel they will become inexpensive eventually and especially if the power companies subsidize them like they did with CFL's..

Ray
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I haven't bought a regular incandescent bulb in the past 15 yrs, except for an appliance bulb in the refrigerator. We have several halogen desk lamps and I use them for outdoor flood lamps as well. When we redid the bathroom I went all halogen in there too. I'm welcoming the change. It will drive down costs and I like that there are now bulbs in conventional form factors that are halogen inside.

On the teflon outgassing question, does anyone know if the "yoshi blue" pan has this issue too?
 
begreen said:
She's probably right. I had the same urge after seeing the light of the Cree. Fortunately the price cured me. Well, that and I have a stock of CFLs that will last about 5 yrs.. Hopefully by then the Cree price will drop to something reasonable.
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Except I got those HD label CR6s for $25 ea. and they have an integrated trim. Just the trim alone for incandescent costs about that. Instant payback in this application.
 
begreen said:
I haven't bought a regular incandescent bulb in the past 15 yrs, except for an appliance bulb in the refrigerator. We have several halogen desk lamps and I use them for outdoor flood lamps as well. When we redid the bathroom I went all halogen in there too. I'm welcoming the change. It will drive down costs and I like that there are now bulbs in conventional form factors that are halogen inside.

On the teflon outgassing question, does anyone know if the "yoshi blue" pan has this issue too?
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The yoshi blue and other ceramic type style pans do advertise they are "non-teflon" but what they use to make them nonstick isn't discussed :). I have several ceramic enamel over cast iron pots and stuff can get stuck or burnt on to the bottom. for the most part, I stick to my stainless steel or cast iron.
 
maverick06 said:
But beyond that, i have no idea why you would use them.
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Unheated buildings hate cfl bulbs. Getting the equivalent lighting of 4 300 watt bulbs gets pretty pricey when using other types. Incandescent still wins in this application when the lights are only on for short periods of time.
 
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Jags said:
Unheated buildings hate cfl bulbs. Getting the equivalent lighting of 4 300 watt bulbs gets pretty pricey when using other types. Incandescent still wins in this application when the lights are only on for short periods of time.
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This is quite true... Ive found CFLs can work in cold if they are left on for long periods and can warm up... for example for my outside floodlights I have CFLs on the switched circuit, but keep halogens in the motion sensor lights.

Indoor, I had a real problem with CFLs on dimmers. I have a lot of can lights in the insulated ceilings in the kitchen. I had bad ice dam problems and the can lights were a culprit so I installed new IC/AT cans and wanted to run lower wattage bulbs for less heat output. I got some free"Dimmable" CFLs from MassSave that where awful... so Instead I put in HD brand Cree CR6s ($25/ea). These I just LOVE and they seem even brighter than 65wat floods. Plus they have an integrated trim so at $25 they are actually as cheap as incandescent ($3 for the blub + $20-$30 for trim) for a new install. Its a win-win.
 
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