Please quote me or provide a post number. Ive never stated "that nothing larger than an 8" chimney is allowed." In fact, I've stated it's the minimum and standard practicen is nothing smaller than the flue collar, and while larger is OK it can cause it's own issues if it's too large.
He's right, the manual says go ahead and dump it into a masonry chimney, and they say nothing about the size. However, with low BK flue temps and the need for taller stacks to avoid smoke smell in some cases, I doubt that anyone who has read up on these stoves would attempt install a BK without a full liner. So, yeah, he's no help here.
Hmmm, lessee, with what I know, what would I do? I've got it, I'd buy a Woodstock steel stove and get a free premium stainless liner, insulated, with the money I saved!
I'm still waiting for you to show me where I said you can't use anything larger than 8"... I'll keep waiting.
It might surprise you that the BK rep that I spoke with prior to me buying my stove had absolutely no concerns about draft or creosote buildup in my chimney even without an insulated liner. He said "your chimney is about as ideal as it gets".He's right, the manual says go ahead and dump it into a masonry chimney, and they say nothing about the size. However, with low BK flue temps and the need for taller stacks to avoid smoke smell in some cases, I doubt that anyone who has read up on these stoves would attempt install a BK without a full liner. So, yeah, he's no help here.
Ya, reps rarely know very much about operation and performance of the stoves they sell. Most are just salesman and are very helpful if you have an issue, not so much with performance...
Not by itself. Height of your chimney and the size of the hole down though it contribute to draft. Of most concern is the thermal mass of the chimney and the heat lost from the flue gases because the large thermal mass of the masonry. The gas temperature is primarily responsible for the induced draft and if its cooled too much by the masonry then draft can suffer. But of most concern should be creosote buildup.
With or without an insulated stainless liner? What were the results, creosote or clean? Are they external to the house or centralized in a chase way?
You did not correct chit. What is the required size chimney for the King highbeam? What does the manual says? It clearly requires the chimney connector to be 8". Why don't you tell us what the size of the chimney needs to be? Quote the King manual.
Please show me where I stated this? Still waiting.
So if you applied this from the princess to the king the required chimney size is 50 square inches (8" round equivalent). Isn't that what I said? Why doesn't it say the words minimum or no less than?
I'm not trying to mislead them. My stove is hooked to a masonry chimney without an insulated liner! Fortunately it runs through the center of the house in its own chase way. I felt mislead about how important an insulated liner is for these stoves. For the folks that have an exterior masonry chimney without an insulated stainless liner they are being significantly mislead by you and by anyone else who tells them no worries without that SS insulate liner. Poor Ray has moisture and creosote flowing in his thimble and down his wall. I'd be pissed! You know his dealers reply when he asked him about it? Run it hotter!
What model is your stove? Looks niceAnd done!
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Don't mind the structural brick holding the broken trim...
Going to fire it as soon as insurance stuff is done.
No liner, just dumping it into the chimney clay liner (is this what you are calling the 'crock'?) What size is the clay liner? Square or round? Even with an 8" round clay liner, I would still run a 6" insulated stainless liner rather than try to use an exterior masonry chimney, especially for a cat stove.
