Well title says it all. Ordering a stove today, and would like to stay under the 2k price for my 1700sq ft raised ranch, and finally narrowed it down after days of deliberation. What are your expert thoughts?????
Napoleon 1402 or Osburn 2000?
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BrowningBAR
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gkoro said:
Kind of the same stove.
Either should put out the same amount of heat. Firebox size is 2.25 vs 2.3
I think the Osburn sticks out further so you might get a little more radiant heat from it. Just a guess, though.
I like my napoleon 1402,have had it for three years. no major compliants. Heats a 850 square foot house too hot for me, 95 degrees on a 5 below day. Easy to clean.
thanks guys. I herd the Napoleon isn't even up to 60% efficiency, and I cannot find ANYWHERE a efficiency rating for it. (maybe thats why it isn't eligable for the tax credit) The Osburn 2000 states 77%
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gkoro said:
I think you might be miss-informed. It is an EPA rated stove. The emmisions ratings on the 1402 is 3.5 grams per hour, well below the minimum of 7.5 grams per hour that is required from an EPA certification.
The efficiency percentage of the Napoleon is probably close to the same as the Osburn.
But, in the end, it doesn't matter as both stoves will perform pretty close to the same. Which ever you like more, whether it is because of the looks or price, will provide about the same amount of heat and use about the same amount of fuel.
I would take specs with a grain of salt. Marketing can be deceiving. Both are clean burning EPA stoves and I would expect them to be close in efficiency. However, I think the Napoleon has more usable firebox space (~2.25) and a more flexible size bed of 18 x 18". The 2000 is a more rectangular layout that is better for E/W burning and a usable firebox closer to ~1.7 cu ft.
Loving my new Napoleon 1402. Energy star tag on door when it arrived a week and a half ago listed it @ 78% efficient. Sounds crazy, but I was in the same boat as far as deciding what to get when I received a sales notice from sears.com- Searched wood burning insert, and lo and behold - best deal I have seen on the Nap1402. Sold through sear by UnbeatableSale.com. Stove + Door + Surround + Tax + Delivery all @ $1900.
Thought I was in for a bad time - Shipped without a door, but one call had one on the way that arrived the same day as Liner from chimneylinerdepot. 4 hours the next Saturday, and I was doing a break-in fire and smoke test.
Thought I was in for a bad time - Shipped without a door, but one call had one on the way that arrived the same day as Liner from chimneylinerdepot. 4 hours the next Saturday, and I was doing a break-in fire and smoke test.
Great guys!! thanks alot. My main concern was with the true size of it, being so wide i wasn't sure It fit my eye, but its growing on me. Ordering the 1402 up today!! howd the install go? I'm thinking about just lining the fireplace with insulation, and stuffing insulation into the flue opening as sort of a "block off plate". My neighbor did that and he says it works great!!
It's fine to pack the damper area with mineral or ceramic wool. Or better yet, install a damper-sealing block off plate there. But I would go a season without insulating the fireplace. And if you do intend to insulated it, by all means get approval from Napoleon (preferably in writing) before doing this. Some stove manufacturers disapprove and have indicated it will void warranty.
HatCity: wondering how you are liking your 1402. I am considering one as my first insert shortly. Couple of other questions:
What is the max log size for this insert? I thought I read 16" and I'm hoping it wold hold at least 18".
Did you end up stuffing the damper with roxul and insulating the fireplace?
Thanks in advance for the feedback.
sorry i didn't see this until just now!! I'm liking it. 2nd season done, and its living up to my expectations. I get about 7-8hrs of good heat our of a full load, and keeps my downstairs where it is high 70's, and upstairs high 60's (raised ranch) 18" is the MAX split size if your going to load it N to S. This is how I load, and I cut my wood anywhere from 16-18. 16's just easier to load and you don't have to be fussy with it, say you load a 18.5 or 19 in there, you don't want to be taking it out half on fire if it doesn't fit. 19-20 will fit if you load E-W.
I cut a bunch of pieces of roxul and stuffed in up there....well not really stuffed, but heat isn't going past it.
I cut a bunch of pieces of roxul and stuffed in up there....well not really stuffed, but heat isn't going past it.
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