Englander 13-NC/30-NC Question

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Nobodyfresh

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Sep 16, 2014
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I've done some research and I'm thinking of picking up this stove before winter. We currently have a old Jotul 3 TDIC-2, which is not bad but we just don't like the small firebox.

With the Englander 13-NC I see it has a blower on it. My question is does it radiate the heat? I've watched some videos and it seems the top of the stove doesn't get to hot (~250), does the heat radiate from the sides?

I guess I'm not familiar with the newer stoves.

Thank you
 
Yes - it is simply a steel body stove. It radiates. One thing you DO want to make sure of is the R value requirements for the hearth pad. Both of those stoves have requirements that exceed ember protection.
 
I asked "
13nc or 30 nc to heat 1500sqft southeast oklahoma
Back in april. I waited and got the Englander Madison. Because it is ember protection only hearth pad. And it has a 2.4 cft firebox. Which is bigger than the 13 but not as massive as the 30. But your in a much colder climate. Everybody here seams to love there 30s.
 
Always simpler to have larger stove and small fires than little stove pushing the h... out of it. 2000 sq ft home ranch 98% of the time the 30 is all I need, If I would burn the green stamps and have the side walls insulated it would help a lot- cost quote was a little over 2k which at present is out of my range.
 
My 30 keeps my 1700sq/ft toasty warm through multiple days of below zero temps.

The 13 is a nice stove but the firebox is tiny.

Pics just because...

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I'm really considering the 30-NC. The next time I make it to home depot I will see if I can check both of them out. I will definitely have to read up on the hearth protection as well.


Thank you for the replies.
 
I've done some research and I'm thinking of picking up this stove before winter. We currently have a old Jotul 3 TDIC-2, which is not bad but we just don't like the small firebox.

Those are two different stoves. The 30NC is a large one with a 3 cu ft firebox and a hearth requirement of 1.5 in r-value. The 13NC has a 1.8 cu ft firebox and needs a r-value of 2. Here s a list of common hearth materials: https://chimneysweeponline.com/horvalue.htm
If you want overnight burns you may want to go for something larger than 2 cu ft. On the other hand, if the Jotul 3 generally did ok I am not sure if you need to go for the 30NC. For mid-size budget stoves check out the new Englander Madison (https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/madison-in-my-burn-trailer.128150/), Pacific Energy True North, medium size Drolet stoves, Timberwolf EPA 2200
With the Englander 13-NC I see it has a blower on it. My question is does it radiate the heat? I've watched some videos and it seems the top of the stove doesn't get to hot (~250), does the heat radiate from the sides

Where did you see the video? If those temps were taken from the stovetop it was not burned quite right. The Englander should be above 500 F to burn cleanly and efficiently.
I guess I'm not familiar with the newer stoves.

Those new stoves need dry wood first and foremost. Dry meaning internal moisture content of less than 20% usually achieved by stacking the split wood for up to 3 years in a sunny and windy spot.
 
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