A few pics while waiting for inspector...

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chimneyguy said:
>>The previous chimney was great. They cut through a ceiling joist, and cut out a rafter to fit the chimney up the roof. Adding support and neither of the locations. There was a huge vertical crack up the whole length, and some horizontal ones as well. I really thought the chimney was just going to fall down. It looked to be poured concrete. It EASILY fell apart piece by piece by tapping it with a small 4lb sledge. above the roof line, it didn’t even need to be hammered apart. It was held together by some type of silicone based product… We just pulled it apart. <<

My son, who started going to work w/ me when he was 3, once said to me,"Dad, 95% of chimneys work okay, and over 80% of them need serious work." I just smiled at his astuteness, and said: "That's why I am a chimey sweep." Sad part is that some folks' answer to this situation is:"That's okay, it's heavily insured." Meanwhile, their kiddies are playing in their upstairs bedroom without a care in the world... Truly, it does take all kinds...
Stay warm, and safe...
Ed

Welcome to the forum Ed! I am sure you can add alot to the mix here..

Ray
 
we have ignition! thanks everyone!
My inspector was a big guy and said he has 2 bad knees, so he didn't even look in the attic. didn't say anything about the electric.
He was INCREDIBLY nice. He told me about the previous home owners... they had a chimney fire and then went to a propane stove instead... haha.
I figured as much...

I'll do a new thread with updates on burn times, wood weight, heat.. everything later! <3

edit;
I'm sitting in front of it staring at a years worth of labor... and then as the kindling is burning down it backpuffed.
The kindling flew all over in the stove... :|
 
Hass said:
we have ignition! thanks everyone!
My inspector was a big guy and said he has 2 bad knees, so he didn't even look in the attic. didn't say anything about the electric.
He was INCREDIBLY nice. He told me about the previous home owners... they had a chimney fire and then went to a propane stove instead... haha.
I figured as much...

I'll do a new thread with updates on burn times, wood weight, heat.. everything later! <3

edit;
I'm sitting in front of it staring at a years worth of labor... and then as the kindling is burning down it backpuffed.
The kindling flew all over in the stove... :|

Awesome Hess congrats! Now for some burning pics :) BTW burning lots of small stuff will make cat stoves puff especially pallet wood.. Larger wood always burned best in my CDW.. So far the T-5 hasn't exhibited any signs of puffing so apparently it's more of a cat stove thing? Look forward to seeing the Chinook in action darn nice looking stove!

Ray
 
raybonz said:
Hass said:
we have ignition! thanks everyone!
My inspector was a big guy and said he has 2 bad knees, so he didn't even look in the attic. didn't say anything about the electric.
He was INCREDIBLY nice. He told me about the previous home owners... they had a chimney fire and then went to a propane stove instead... haha.
I figured as much...

I'll do a new thread with updates on burn times, wood weight, heat.. everything later! <3

edit;
I'm sitting in front of it staring at a years worth of labor... and then as the kindling is burning down it backpuffed.
The kindling flew all over in the stove... :|

Awesome Hess congrats! Now for some burning pics :) BTW burning lots of small stuff will make cat stoves puff especially pallet wood.. Larger wood always burned best in my CDW.. So far the T-5 hasn't exhibited any signs of puffing so apparently it's more of a cat stove thing? Look forward to seeing the Chinook in action darn nice looking stove!

Ray

I'll post some pictures when I can see it!!!!
There's a pretty good amount of smoke coming off the stove right now. Smells horrible. haha.... At least I can't say people didn't warn me.
I can't believe how the cat glows orange immediately after you close the bypass. Words can't even express how happy I am right now... haha.
It does smell almost like plastic burning outside however. I did use some rutlands to seal the stove collar (no other pipe joints though). Perhaps it's just burning off
 
Here ya go guys... I meant to reload after kindling N/S but the splits I brought in were a bit too long I think.
all pine... Thermostat on 2, top stove top (convection deck) dead on 400 w/ blower on as low as it can go.

This is about 35-40 mins in to the burn, top is at 400.
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This is about 70-80 minutes in to the burn, top is still at 400.
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Backpuffed once at the start... then it made a loud noise about 10 mins ago... I'm not sure if it did it again or not, I wasn't watching the flames.
It's about 25 degrees out, strong draft. Got 16' of chimney to the cap. (12' class A, 4' dvl)

Chimney double wall flue gas probe (condar) is just under 600.
All the windows are wide open in my house... and the room the stove is in is at 64.

Edit;
If I didn't know better, I'd say this stove is running on secondaries as well.
The wood not on fire, but on the top of the firebox it's covered in a wall of fire... and the cat is glowing orange.
 
Looks good Hass! Personally I prefer the look of the Chinook over the King and Princess.. Is the Chinook priced same as the other stoves by BK?

Ray
 
Looks AWESOME!!!
That'll dry the sheet rock mud :)
Bet your love'n it more every day. :)
Good job!
 
raybonz said:
Looks good Hass! Personally I prefer the look of the Chinook over the King and Princess.. Is the Chinook priced same as the other stoves by BK?

Ray
My chinook with ash pan and outside air kit (not installed yet), was a few bucks under $4300.
I didn't even price out the princess since I wasn't interested in it... But from what I've heard it's usually a few hundred less. The Chinook price includes the fans though, the Princess charges extra for them.
I thought the fan kit was optional, but it's actually included unlike what the manual says. I wanted them anyway, so it just saved me a step from having to install them myself.

bogydave said:
Looks AWESOME!!!
That'll dry the sheet rock mud :)
Bet your love'n it more every day. :)
Good job!

I brought up the dehumidifier from the basement too, so I'd estimate about 2 minutes after the mud goes on it will be good to sand ;)

thanks for the kind words guys.
I can't wait to run some tests and see what kind of burn times it gets...
my mom even said she liked it! At first she told me it was ugly and I can't put it in my living room LOL. Then when she came by she said she was wrong and that it actually does look nice. My parents even brought a cake that said "Happy fire" with little flames down below :)
However as I poke around the stove staring at it on low burn... it almost has a creosote type smell to it... just around the stove area.
 
raybonz said:
Looks good Hass! Personally I prefer the look of the Chinook over the King and Princess.. Is the Chinook priced same as the other stoves by BK?

Ray

Agreed, the Chinook is a handsome stove. I like the clean lines too. All was well until I read the price. It just caused my drawers to drop. How much of that was shipping?
 
BeGreen said:
raybonz said:
Looks good Hass! Personally I prefer the look of the Chinook over the King and Princess.. Is the Chinook priced same as the other stoves by BK?

Ray

Agreed, the Chinook is a handsome stove. I like the clean lines too. All was well until I read the price. It just caused my drawers to drop. How much of that was shipping?

None, I drove to Syracuse (3 hours one way) to pick her up.
The price does suck... but for all the wood you save, headaches you don't have to deal with... I seemed worth it to me. Time will tell if it was or not though.

edit; I just looked up the price... I'm sorry it was $4176 including tax. Not 4300.
 
"However as I poke around the stove staring at it on low burn… it almost has a creosote type smell to it… just around the stove area."

Might be the odor of the paint curing.
After a few hot fires & it don't go away, then I'd start trouble shooting.
If you have a warm stove pipe, you should have draft so any leaks in the stove or stove pipe would be pulling air in.
If the pipe is cold, then a down draft might happen. Mine on Low burn, I can lay my hand on the double wall pipe & not get a burn. (Maybe 120 - 130° )
Got a CO alarm?
 
Hass said:
edit; I just looked up the price... I'm sorry it was $4176 including tax. Not 4300.

If it wasn't cruising at 525 at the moment I would go in the family room and kiss that 30-NC. :ahhh:
 
bogydave said:
"However as I poke around the stove staring at it on low burn… it almost has a creosote type smell to it… just around the stove area."

Might be the odor of the paint curing.
After a few hot fires & it don't go away, then I'd start trouble shooting.
If you have a warm stove pipe, you should have draft so any leaks in the stove or stove pipe would be pulling air in.
If the pipe is cold, then a down draft might happen. Mine on Low burn, I can lay my hand on the double wall pipe & not get a burn. (Maybe 120 - 130° )
Got a CO alarm?

You bet I go CO alarms! Got a few of them. one right near the stove.



In other news... a VERY disappointing morning! I wake up to a 56 degree house... I'm laying in bed thinking to myself that it can't keep up with the cold and Ill have to turn it up.... I was a little bummed. So I get up, and notice the stove is cold! The top was about 80-90 degrees, a couple coals in it but nothing to get it restarted. Those 3 splits were in there still, one was just about gone, the other two were half of what they were when I put them in. I'm thinking I didn't burn it on high long enough after I put them in. I did it for about 30 minutes on 3, then did about 30 minutes on 2, then cut it down to 1. Maybe I'll try 30 on 3, then 60 on 2, then shut her down.

I ended up checking the gaskets, all nice and tight.
As for now, the flue gasses are flying to 800 with bypass open.... cat is almost ready.

edit; Here she is heating this morning on #3, cat engaged.
Loaded E/W because I have some longer splits that just barely won't make it N/S... so I'm using those guys up!
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Hass,
What matters is that you enjoy the stove.. It's much more than I'd want to pay for a stove.. The T-5 was $2100.00 with blower and that wasn't an easy decision for me but then again I am a frugal (cheap) Frenchman lol.. I feel the Woodstock PH is a relative bargain in the bang for the buck ($2400.00 intro price) category for looks and utility and the NC-30 (around $1100.00 reg. price) is the best bang for the buck for just being a good wood stove plus they look decent enough.. The T-5 and T-6 fall somewhere in between and I have been satisfied so far with long burn times and ease of use.. I would love to have a thermostatic damper on my stove and this is where BK appears to shine and is able to get incredibly long burn times.. Look forward to reading about your experiences with the Chinook!

Ray
 
Hass,
On your overnight burn,was the stove filled up pretty good?
 
On my stove you have to have the t-stat set right at where it closes ..if you move the knob back and forth kinda fast you should be able to hear a click ..that's where it is shutting.
Don't turn it any lower if you expect it to open up for air to boost the fire once a good part of the wood is gone.
For me that is close to 2.

If I turn it down to one it may not open enough to get the fire going.
I have found that adjusting that takes some trail and error.

I still have a feeling you burnt your wood up to much before going to bed.
 
HotCoals said:
Hass,
On your overnight burn,was the stove filled up pretty good?
Not really, I would say about half full... it was burned down quite a bit by the time i got it down to 1. It's all softwood so it turns to ash quick.

HotCoals said:
On my stove you have to have the t-stat set right at where it closes ..if you move the knob back and forth kinda fast you should be able to hear a click ..that's where it is shutting.
Don't turn it any lower if you expect it to open up for air to boost the fire once a good part of the wood is gone.
For me that is close to 2.

If I turn it down to one it may not open enough to get the fire going.
I have found that adjusting that takes some trail and error.

I still have a feeling you burnt your wood up to much before going to bed.
Ahh yeah, I hear it clunk at about 1 1/2 or so... I figured it changes depending on the temperature though. I thought the idea was to burn up the wood good and get it charred before you shut it down?
 
Hass said:
HotCoals said:
Hass,
On your overnight burn,was the stove filled up pretty good?
Not really, I would say about half full... it was burned down quite a bit by the time i got it down to 1. It's all softwood so it turns to ash quick.

HotCoals said:
On my stove you have to have the t-stat set right at where it closes ..if you move the knob back and forth kinda fast you should be able to hear a click ..that's where it is shutting.
Don't turn it any lower if you expect it to open up for air to boost the fire once a good part of the wood is gone.
For me that is close to 2.

If I turn it down to one it may not open enough to get the fire going.
I have found that adjusting that takes some trail and error.

I still have a feeling you burnt your wood up to much before going to bed.
Ahh yeah, I hear it clunk at about 1 1/2 or so... I figured it changes depending on the temperature though. I thought the idea was to burn up the wood good and get it charred before you shut it down?

If I'm loading on a bed of good coals and stove top is near 250-300 I just give it enough air to get decent flames.
I start doing this about 45 mins before bed.
Then I watch the cat temp slowly climb...and maybe give it a little more air or a little less or just leave it alone.
To me the idea is to get the wood charred so it will feed that cat fuel (smoke) after I turn the air down for the night...not burn up half my wood.
If the wood is not charred enough the cat could stall..but that would not be the end of the world..the t-stat usually will kick the air latter and make things good...if set right.
I want to leave as much of the wood as possible in the stove before I call it a night.

If it's going to be real cold at night I'll bring the house temp up some 2 or 3 hours before I do the overnight load.
Maybe I'm reading into your post wrong ..but it sounds like you are burning half your night load before you go to bed in that hour or two.
I see the Chinook has a 2.75 box..I'm closer to 4.2 so that alone makes a big diff.


You're right btw..the t-stat closed position will depend on potions of the setting.
But that said it would have to real hot in your room for it to close at 3...it may never close at 3.
1.5-2.25 is where I set mine.
I don't think the t-stat is sensitive enough most of the time..needs a little work.
I think it stays to warm under that hood for to long a time..just my opinion.
But even if it never opens during the night to let more air in it does not seem to be a problem...at least not for me.
My draft is real good and my wood is at 12-16mc.

Your results may vary..lol.

If you out gas all your wood before you go to bed there will be very little to feed the cat.
 
Any new system takes some time to learn the operation. All are a bit different & take some learning.
Add in a new type of stove & you have some other things to learn.
My lowest setting for a low burn cycle is different than others.
It took a few failures to get it working & drier wood this year helped.
I sealed some air leaks on the double wall stove pipe & now it's purring along.
Have fun learning :)
 
That is a sweet looking stove you have there! Quite the remodel job you've been doing as well- nice work. Looking forward to your future posts about the Chinook, how your burn times progress as you learn the stove, etc.

I heard that there was a smaller Chinook in testing right now for release in the future - wonder how big the firebox will be for that.

Enjoy the new stove. Cool that you got a cake - I'll bet the candles had a long burn time too!;)
 
jeeper said:
I heard that there was a smaller Chinook in testing right now for release in the future - wonder how big the firebox will be for that.

1.8 cu ft, 20 hour burns with full loads of Larch.
 
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