Smoke?! Smoke?! What Smoke?!

Glad to hear it Mike! Keep us up to date.

That's great to hear Mike!

Rob

Sounds like you got it sorted. Well done!

Not sure if you're talking about stack/chimney stuff? But I get steam/vapors out of chimney when it's cold. Just like when my oil furnace was running. Don't sweat the small stuff. Gassifer boiler is a good thing.

I was looking over a E140 SS WG as I was interested in buying one. The owner was burning green oak(cut the day previously). Because he had a great coal bed, as oak is noted for, all that was coming out of the chimney was steam. That won't phase the WG, chimney might be another story, Randy

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Singed Eyebrows said:

I was looking over a E140 SS WG as I was interested in buying one. The owner was burning green oak(cut the day previously). Because he had a great coal bed, as oak is noted for, all that was coming out of the chimney was steam. That won't phase the WG, chimney might be another story, Randy

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When did you look at it? Are you looking to replace the atmos?

The problem I am having and I dont know if it is wet wood or condensation, is I am get water in the ash tray below the cyclone ash collector. It is dripping out of the ash pan and the ashes are a black muddy mess. I wonder if the same steam that is coming out of the top of the flue is also dripping down the sidewalls of the pipe and will stop when wood is drier. Or is it just condensation and all I need to do is insulate the entire black pipe, ash collector and little black pipe connecting WG to ash collector.
If it continues it will eventually rot out the ash collector and tray.

I have 10 feet of pipe from the ash collector to the top cap. 6 feet are double wall insulated SS and 4 feet are double wall uninsulated (interior pipe is SS and exterior is black pipe).

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I looked at the WG about 2 years ago. I'll run the Atmos for awhile yet & then replace it with a Lambda boiler. I'll need to get probably 3 more years out of it though. Muncie Bob had the same problem with water in the lower cyclone. He wrapped the cyclone with insulation & that took care of it. It's good to hear your not smoking out your neighbors anymore, Randy

Glad you got the smoking fixed, now insulate the piping and collector and you'll be good to go!

Inifinity and Gasifier,

Between all of your collective posts, I've solved just about every one of my learning curve issues. I've had my E-100 ss up since December 1 and I'm loving it! Most of my present wood supply is silver maple I took down back in March, so it's a bit wet (and soft), but I've also got some equally moist red oak that's working well. I've had a little mit of moisture problem, but mostly when its warm (45-50) outside. I actually had it dripping out of the load door and onto the floor below. The flyash pan is still dry though. Thanks for all of your posts!

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FarmerTan said:

Inifinity and Gasifier,
Between all of your collective posts, I've solved just about every one of my learning curve issues. I've had my E-100 ss up since December 1 and I'm loving it! Most of my present wood supply is silver maple I took down back in March, so it's a bit wet (and soft), but I've also got some equally moist red oak that's working well. I've had a little mit of moisture problem, but mostly when its warm (45-50) outside. I actually had it dripping out of the load door and onto the floor below. The flyash pan is still dry though. Thanks for all of your posts!

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WOW! SWEET SYSTEM BRO! I see you got all the goodies...SS, OIL, DHW, Smoke Hood. Did you get the low temp shut off and cycle time?
Did you do the work?
I had brown water drip out of the load door and stain the lower door. I can't get it off. I had to adjust the hinge bolts and removed a shim plat on the latch to tighten up the door. Now I noticed brown water dripping out of the cover plate where the oil chamber would go. Every bolt was loose.
I still have water dripping out of the ash pan. But it is definitely condensation, because it only happens when the unit is not burning. So I will just insulate the smoke pipe.
Even with all the learning curve issues, I am so glad I am not using oil.
I am real happy for you! You should send gasifier a message also. He would really enjoy seeing a fellow Wood Gun owner.
Now stay in touch and start posting.
Where in Connecticut are you? My sister lives in Branford.

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Way to sneak up on us there Dude. I mean FarmerTan. Nice system. Can you figure out a way to make your pictures bigger? I want to check that system out a little closer. Is the oil burner from AHS as well? Please tell us a little bit about the install. We like details, and pictures. What kind of shape are you in for your wood supply for next year? You and Infinity Mike have to get enough wood c/s/s so that is will dry for next year. I have approximately 28 cord of wood c/s/s for next year. (face cord)That will be a very important for both of you. I feel much better now that I have my wood put up for 2012/13. Now it is time to start working on the 2013/14. My vacation just started tonight! :coolsmile:

Hey guys, I just posted my album to Photobucket.com Check it out at http://s577.photobucket.com/albums/ss212/gainestyler/Boiler install/ I had not initially intended to get the hood, it seemed a trivial add-on. However, I am so glad that I did. You really can get a good amount of smoke billowing out, and it handles it very nicely. I have it ducted through 4 inch aluminum druer vent through my shop and outside. Funny thing about that is that we're really stretching to be able to afford this system, and had to get it financed. Because of that we had to have a licensed pro install it. Its a good thing too, because although I could probably have done it, especialy during the summer, there's no way I would have the time to do it during the school year (I'm a teacher). Plus, the funding took so long to secure that in the meantime we went into the "off season" for boiler purchasing, so AHS had a 15% off sale. That saved us a bundle and helped pay for the hood. Unfortunately I did not buy either the draft cycle timer nor the low temp cutoff, so using the thing during the shoulder season is a bit tricky. Plus, the circulators are wired to come on whenever the thermostats are calling for heat, regardless of the boiler temp. So, the first few days I came home to a 70 degree boiler with all three circulator pumps running and the draft fan going as well. I ended up lighting the boiler, bringing it up to temp and getting the house up to about 74 before going to bed. Then I turned the boiler and all of the thremostats off and went to bed. The following day when I got home from school I would light it off again. This way I didn't waste the wood and the temp only dropped to 100. It still bothers me that the circ pumps run like that. I', trying to figure how I can use the oil switchover aquastat to cut out the circ pumps. I got a call into Daren at AHS and he's looking into it, but I haven't had time to pursue that or do anything about it. I think that I am going to spring the $229 for the low temp cutoff though. As for wood, I'm not in real good shape yet. I've got 2 cords from August (Storm Irene) stacked up and another 3-4 still to split and stack before the snow flies. I've got about 2 that I cut in March, and that's a little bit wet still, but is burning fairly well. Fortunately I've got a neighbor who is real helpful (he runs his own landscaping business) and helps me get wood. I work for him for free, he bills $55/hr, and gives me the wood - delivered right to my back yard. Nevertheless, I've still got to convince my wife that a truck is a NEED, not just a want. Her most recent idea was to get a trailer for her little station wagon. The we traded that car for a nice little C240. Well, ain't no trailer going on that. It's a win-win. She gets a nice car and I'll be able to get a truck. Anyway, that's enough for now. Thanks again for posting all that great info. I look forward to some more idea sharing. Cheers, Gaines
P.S. Infinity, we live in Preston. Near the largest casino in North America - Foxwoods. Not that I care, we're not into that. Branford is about an hour southwest of us.

I don't know why, but I cannot post the url correctly. If you look at what is there, put the percent sign followed by 20 in the gap between Boiler and Install and you'll get there.

FarmerTan said:

I don't know why, but I cannot post the url correctly. If you look at what is there, put the percent sign followed by 20 in the gap between Boiler and Install and you'll get there.

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Try this

http://s577.photobucket.com/albums/ss212/gainestyler/Boiler install/

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss212/gainestyler/Boiler install/DSC_0865.jpg

Well I tried

Farmertan,

On the back of your wood gun, if you are looking at the back of it, there is another port that you can put an Aquastat in. We put an Aquastat there and that controls the circulation pump that runs between the Gun and my storage tank. We also installed an Aquastat on the tank that controls when another pump turns on and signals when the oil boiler needs to turn on. Whenever the zones call for heat that turns on a circ pump just above storage tank and draws hot water out of either boiler or tank. If the boiler and tank go cold for any reason the Aquastat on tank goes below 155, or whatever it is set at, the oil boiler kicks on. It works very nice. Here is a link to a thread on here with pictures of my system.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/81767/

You should definetly get your system wired so that your circ pumps draw from your Wood Gun only when it is up to temperature, or your oil boiler comes on and the circ pumps then draw from that. I do not know the specifics of your system, but if you need help you could post your information on here and there are some very experienced people on here that could come up with the easiest way to make if work correctly. I am surprised with the fact that you had to go through what you did to get the financing, that whoever installed your system, did it that way.

I went to my local Federal Credit Union and talked to them about financing. They said they could do it and it would be 10.99% interest. I said no, that is to high. I am not going to do it with that kind of interest. I'll have to go look around and find someone that will do it at a lower rate. Then I said are you sure that is the best you could do? Not wanting to go somewhere else. She called her boss to check. He then told her to finance it as a piece of recreational equipment. 4.5% interest. Sounded good to me! All they needed was a serial number. At any rate, your installer should have installed it so that the circ pumps draw correctly.

It should be cold enough now that you can put enough wood in the Gun and let it cycle on and off all day long. Then you won't have any problem. But I would think you would want that fixed. And eventually you will want to add storage. Have a good one. Congratulations on getting it on line. Nice!

Looks like Framer's is like mine and if so, that extra port is occupied. The oil combo units have 3 aquastats...high limit, operating temp and the 3rd being oil switch over temp.

FarmerTan said:

I don't know why, but I cannot post the url correctly. If you look at what is there, put the percent sign followed by 20 in the gap between Boiler and Install and you'll get there.

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The is the equivalent of a "space" which is not recognized properly. Trick is to not use spaces in any URL, or use a site like tinyurl to make a shortcut.

http://tinyurl.com/7ckmwwb

Great looking system BTW!

infinitymike said:

muncybob said:

Glad you got the smoking fixed, now insulate the piping and collector and you'll be good to go!

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Do you have a pic of how you insulated yours? Just for a point of reference.

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Here's a shot. The only piping not wrapped is the black pipe from boiler to the vertical stack...ran out of the insulation. I would like to wrap the insulation to cut down on any fibers that come off when you brush up against it(only happens when I remove the horizontal pipe to get at the chimney)...any suggestions out there? The stuff works great...piping was well over 200 but the outside of the insulation was below 90.