How I know I learned a ton about woodburning since last year

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joefrompa

Minister of Fire
Sep 7, 2010
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SE PA
Last year was my first year burning. I often used too much or too little air and usually cleaned my glass once a week. I actually said that my stove's airwash wasn't very good, because even when I was running 600 degree fires the glass wouldn't self-clean very much. I also used questionable wood.

This year I'm burning 4-6 month seasoned pine & 1 year seasoned red oak. I haven't cleaned my glass in 5 weeks - every time it gets a bit dirty, I just run a healthy fire and it cleans itself up nicely. I'm emptying my ash once every 2-4 weeks with almost round-the-clock burning and a medium sized firebox.

And I'm using far less wood and getting far more heat out of the existing wood. Right now I look to my left and I see a firebox at over 600 with almost no visible flames on a pile of pine - except tons of secondaries at the ceiling of the firebox.

The biggest things I learned besides the importance of seasoned wood:

1. The more air your firebox sucks in, the less heat your house retains. Get the firebox at 450-500 with a good load of wood, then shut the air down as much as is healthy for it. As long as it's not smoldering, it's giving off more net heat and consuming less wood.

2. Allow full burn cycles between reloads whenever possible. Let the stove get down to 350-400 before re-loading. Feel free to close the air down during a coaling stage so that heat is retained inside the stove.

3. Use the blower minimally when the stove is heating, and maximally when the stove is cruising or running hot. You don't want to make the stove work hard when it's getting up to temp but you DO want to suck the heat off of it once it's in "the zone".

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I'm heating a 2200 square foot house with alot of questionable wall insulation/sealing using a 2.2 cubic foot firebox insert in a poor layout/external chimney. And so far, it's capable of heating the house down to 25 degrees outside temp and keeping it "warm enough". And that's been enabled by these learnings.

Joe

P.s. "Warm enough" is 65 in the bedroom/far reaches of the house & 75 in the stove room. I find myself guzzling water when I spend hours in this room.
 
I agree..the more air your stove is sucking the more heat that is going up your flue..exponentially.(sp?)
 
I think it's exponentially as well. That was one of my big things - a small increase/decrease in air control means a massive amount difference in heat retention in the home.

FYI, same load of pine has been in for ~60 minutes now and is still running secondaries at over 525-550 degrees stove top with the fan on 75-80% high. Air control is shut down.
 
And next year you will be in sync to the point that it is like your own heart rhythm. You don't think about it much, it just does what it has to do and you try to take care of it the best you can.

Sounds like your on the winning side of the learning curve. Congrats.
 
When I can get 2-2.5 hours of 400-650 degree burns off single loads of pine, I'm quite pleased. And I'm pretty much there.
 
Joe - glad to hear your burning season is going well and you've made over the learning curve hump. It was a bit of a rough start last year for you so I would say you've certainly earned it. Congrats and have a great burning season!
 
Joe, why are you burning pine if you live in se pa? We have alot harder wood to burn than pine, no? Not being a smart a$$ , but I only pick up pine to use for camp fires.
 
joefrompa said:
This year I'm burning 4-6 month seasoned pine & 1 year seasoned red oak. I haven't cleaned my glass in 5 weeks - every time it gets a bit dirty, I just run a healthy fire and it cleans itself up nicely. I'm emptying my ash once every 2-4 weeks with almost round-the-clock burning and a medium sized firebox.

And I'm using far less wood and getting far more heat out of the existing wood. Right now I look to my left and I see a firebox at over 600 with almost no visible flames on a pile of pine - except tons of secondaries at the ceiling of the firebox.

The biggest things I learned besides the importance of seasoned wood:

1. The more air your firebox sucks in, the less heat your house retains. Get the firebox at 450-500 with a good load of wood, then shut the air down as much as is healthy for it. As long as it's not smoldering, it's giving off more net heat and consuming less wood.

2. Allow full burn cycles between reloads whenever possible. Let the stove get down to 350-400 before re-loading. Feel free to close the air down during a coaling stage so that heat is retained inside the stove.

3. Use the blower minimally when the stove is heating, and maximally when the stove is cruising or running hot. You don't want to make the stove work hard when it's getting up to temp but you DO want to suck the heat off of it once it's in "the zone".

...

I'm heating a 2200 square foot house with alot of questionable wall insulation/sealing using a 2.2 cubic foot firebox insert in a poor layout/external chimney. And so far, it's capable of heating the house down to 25 degrees outside temp and keeping it "warm enough". And that's been enabled by these learnings.

Joe

P.s. "Warm enough" is 65 in the bedroom/far reaches of the house & 75 in the stove room. I find myself guzzling water when I spend hours in this room.

Joe, it is good to hear you are doing much better this year. Would you like to do even better? It can be done! The key is that 4-6 month pine and 1 year red oak. You will be amazed at the difference another year will make with this wood just like you are amazed now the difference between last year and this year.

I also agree with your statement about less air and more heat. Too many folks think more air and seeing those big flames get the heat but where it gets the heat is up the chimney rather than in the house. You have it right with cutting down the air.

On the full burn cycles I also agree but some folks tend to think that means filling the stove each time. We have yet to burn a full load this winter as it just has not been needed. But if that heat is needed then we'll fill the stove. Many times we'll just add a couple small splits on the coals and it gets all the heat we need.

Not all stoves have blowers but for sure with inserts it is necessary. We do not need a blower on the stove and have no problem heating all corners of the house. If it does get cool in the far end, then a small fan sitting on the floor, set on low speed, in the hallway blowing cool air towards the stove room works wonders.
 
Sounds like you've got it Joe!

Now you can enjoy the stove instead of fighting with it.

-SF
 
Yep, my second year too and boy have I learned alot. Last years wood was not seasoned enough and this year is ready to go. I hear you on the air I do like you.

It is amazing how much your learn and all the help available on this forum.

Happy Burning !!!!!!!!!!!
 
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