15 yard dump load of rounds?

2-2.5 depending on how rounded up it is

Lucky to get 3 out of it. Now if they were stacked in, allot more.
As long as you pay for the amount you get after split & stacked, sounds like a good deal.
Offer 1/2 the $ up front, pay the remainder after stacked up & measured.
What type of wood?
Is he saying it 4.5 X $70 = $315 per load ?

If you are actually getting a cord for $70, and it's in rounds already, I'd jump! If you aren't scrounging, sounds about the cheapest/easiest way to get wood I've seen in a while! Cheers!

How much do you burn per year.
Maybe get enough to be a year or 2 ahead, multiple loads may be cheaper & then your scrounging can keep you ahead as time permits.
$200 sound reasonable. If both parties are happy, "good deal"
If it was you, Would you sell a 15 yard dump truck load of firewood for $200?

bogydave said:

How much do you burn per year.
Maybe get enough to be a year or 2 ahead, multiple loads may be cheaper & then your scrounging can keep you ahead as time permits.
$200 sound reasonable. If both parties are happy, "good deal"
If it was you, Would you sell a 15 yard dump truck load of firewood for $200?

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Doesn't seem to be any free lunch with firewood. You pay one way or another. Either you put the labor in or have to fight with someone else that does to get the quantity and quality you expect for your money. $70 for an honest cord delivered and bucked would be a sweet deal here.

SolarAndWood said:

Doesn't seem to be any free lunch with firewood. You pay one way or another. Either you put the labor in or have to fight with someone else that does to get the quantity and quality you expect for your money. $70 for an honest cord delivered and bucked would be a sweet deal here.

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+1 that would be a bargain here!

Ray

SolarAndWood said:

$70 for an honest cord delivered and bucked would be a sweet deal here.

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Around here you'd get arrested for stealing at that price.

Just curious how many cord the seller thinks he has on board. A rule of thumb for bulk loaded wood is around 200 cu ft for a cord but that's generally for cut and split. Can't see there being more air space for cut rounds but it depends on the variety of sizes. Supposedly even a well ranked cord of split equals around 85 cu ft of actual wood, the rest being dirt, bark, and air.

I know when I buck up a cord, I get about 6 cu ft of sawdust plus whatever bark falls off. Then once that cord dries, it shrinks maybe 5% and more bark falls off. I heard of one guy that would call his wood monger to come get all the bark and sawdust and to replace it with wood.

bogydave said:

Offer 1/2 the $ up front, pay the remainder after stacked up & measured.

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Maybe for that price you could get him to stack it. j/k It's usually cash on the dash here.

One wood seller was saying here that a customer disputed the quantity and so he walked around and found they stashed some of it and falsely claimed to have been shorted.

I would guess processing a cord of wood generates at least a yard of waste in sawdust, bark and small chunks that go flying. So you are buying 14 yards of tossed rounds. There will be lots of air between 15 yards of tossed rounds I can't imagine you'd end up with more than 2.5 cords when split and stacked.

Careful now, in my part of the world (same as OR) there are these trucks that show up in logging towns and the "rounds" are really the butt ends from a logging operation. On every landing there is a pile of butt ends generated when logs are cut to length and loaded on trucks. These guys with oversized dump trucks go up and load up with the "rounds" and sell for firewood.

So you're not getting 16" long rounds, you are getting random lengths of wood that are generally two to 5 feet long. That's fine as long as that's what you expect. I've bought one 4.5 cord load like this and it worked out fine.

Anything under 100$ per cord is a good deal for even logs.

LLigetfa said:

bogydave said:

Offer 1/2 the $ up front, pay the remainder after stacked up & measured.

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Maybe for that price you could get him to stack it. j/k It's usually cash on the dash here.

One wood seller was saying here that a customer disputed the quantity and so he walked around and found they stashed some of it and falsely claimed to have been shorted.

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"Maybe for that price you could get him to stack it"
If you are doing honest business, with an unknown quantity, & plan on repeat business. A known quantity would be important to me.
"Trust" isn't a strange thing between 2 honest people, If I paid $210, & after I stacked it, got 4 cords, I'd pay him $70 for the extra cord.
Some may call that dumb, I call it "honest".
After all, I probably shook his hand when it was delivered

"they stashed some of it and falsely claimed to have been shorted"
Well if you are going to cheat & lie like that , that's stealing.
I assumed that folks are honest & good at their word.

LLigetfa said:

Around here you’d get arrested for stealing at that price.

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lol, unless it is stolen property cash on dash is a deal around here. There are guys selling a cord cut and split pick up for just over a hundred bucks here. Makes me think twice about my scrounging hobby.

TriTodd said:

Wow, I did not figure that it would be reduced by that much.

He is asking $70 per cord. I have not called him yet. I just wanted to be prepared. I don't know what kind of wood yet. As long as it is not poplar or willow or tree of heaven, I would still think it is a good deal.

I think I will offer $200 for the load. If it comes out to 3 cords, I will be happy. I can't imagine it would be less than 2 cords, that would still be $100 per cord and not bad.

Considering I can only haul 1/3 cord at a time at best with my rig, transportation is my biggest limiter.

Thanks for all the advice.

Todd

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Todd, ask him what he considers a cord of wood. Perhaps his definition of a cord is different than yours.

Flatbedford said:

I would guess processing a cord of wood generates at least a yard of waste in sawdust, bark and small chunks that go flying..

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A yard (27 cu ft) sounds a bit much for one cord of wood even if all of the bark falls off. Still, when I clean up my processing area after bucking and splitting, I can't help but lament the loss of volume and that's before the wood dries and shrinks.

Todd,

This sounds like it could be a good deal. Ditto on asking how the seller defines "cord". Also, wouldn't be a bad idea to give the impression you might become a repeat customer.

2 cents.

LLigetfa said:

Flatbedford said:

I would guess processing a cord of wood generates at least a yard of waste in sawdust, bark and small chunks that go flying..

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A yard (27 cu ft) sounds a bit much for one cord of wood even if all of the bark falls off. Still, when I clean up my processing area after bucking and splitting, I can't help but lament the loss of volume and that's before the wood dries and shrinks.

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The last time I did any major cutting and splitting at the house it was dead fall Black Locust. All the bark fell off of every round I split. There was a huge amount of debris! I guess with other woods it may be less.

Ja, when I read on here how some folk can get seasoned wood delivered C/S/S for the price that I pay for logs, I'm green with envy. Anyway, back to the OP and the dump load of rounds, at least the 6 cu ft of sawdust per cord can be removed from the equation. Also, much of the bark that is going to come off probably already did in bulk handling and that which travels with the load probably occupies the space that would otherwise be air.

All in all, the price depends on what you can scrounge and what you value your own time at versus what you can can get C/S/S for.

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LLigetfa said:

Flatbedford said:

I would guess processing a cord of wood generates at least a yard of waste in sawdust, bark and small chunks that go flying..

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A yard (27 cu ft) sounds a bit much for one cord of wood even if all of the bark falls off. Still, when I clean up my processing area after bucking and splitting, I can't help but lament the loss of volume and that's before the wood dries and shrinks.

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The last time I did any major cutting and splitting at the house it was dead fall Black Locust. All the bark fell off of every round I split. There was a huge amount of debris! I guess with other woods it may be less.

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Steve I can imagine the size of your bark pile! Locust has some really thick corky bark for sure and that had to be some great firewood..

Ray

This may sound anal but, wouldnt it be easier to weigh the load in and out? If you know the type of wood and the size of the load I would think the math would be simple,,,,,,,,

That's how we do it at the mill. It all goes by weight, not volume. When it comes to firewood however there is disincentive to sell dry wood by weight since wet wood obviously weighs more.