How I Stack Wood

Hey Eric!
I've been gone for a while...But I was just checkin' out all that I've missed these past few months ,as my mind turns back to wood burning(i've got my first cord coming this weekend~100$ cut,split delivered) & I came across your post/pics. Gotta tell you: Your wood stack is a thing of beauty.
I am envious of the flat ground you have . I'm on QUITE A HILL. So I'll have to figure on a different way to stack my wood.
Kudos to you though! Very sharp.

Eric

I'm going to admit it. I copied you exactly and it was very sucessful. Appreciate the pictures!

Eric Johnson said:

Over the years I've learned that if you want to stack firewood to any decent height without it falling over, it's best to build it up evenly along the entire length of the stack. I usually go up in 2-foot intervals. While I'm not the neatest wood stacker (or cutter) on the planet, I do get free-standing piles over 6 feet high that don't fall down while they're being built, or later.

To make sure I'm stacking straight between the posts, I run a piece of thin nylon string on the ground between the posts. If you make sure that the string is in the middle of the chunks when you put down the first layer, your pile will be straight.

This first shot is the first course of a 40-foot long pile of 24-inch (more or less) beech and hard maple. This wood was cut, hauled and split in the summer of 2005. I'll be burning it this winter.

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Great Technique!

This is a perfect example of an article that would go nicely in the Hearthwiki. In fact, as an example, I moved a copy of it there so everyone can see how it is done!

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Stack_Firewood_1/

As a for-instance of editing, someone could add the part about doing it on a hill to the bottom of article.

Wiki Wiki, I'm trying to "sell" the Wiki.

I was inspired by your wood pile...and I cleared out the garden from the only really level spot on my lot to make room for my pile.
I have a little over a cord stacked now , free-standing on wood pallets . I will have another delivery soon...and that's when I'm going to incorporate your stake method,Eric.
Right now , the pile is not so high that it needs that (about 4 feet tall) ...but when I add to it , it will definitely need the stakes for added stability. I'll send a pic when I'm through.

Sure is nice to have wood all stacked outside seasoning in the sun ....

I look at it , and it makes me smile.


This first delivery ~ I received for 100$ the same amount of wood I had to pay 400$ for last year. I'm ordering another load for sure!
Nice mix of wood. Well seasoned. Can't beat it.
Red oak, elm, maple ,black walnut, apple, a little poplar, hickory, ash.
...happiness.

I use those sign posts too, driving them in with a pipe-type tool that slips over the top. Worked well in the last place with sand soil. The new place is rocky, so it's hard to find a good place to drive it down sometimes and then it might be rather shallow. I've been using two posts on each end.

You're right Eric! I didn't read your initial post carefully enough! I wonder if a little line (as needed) as you are going up would prevent the tilting effect on those metal posts. I put rope on on top of one pile from one post to another, and it turned out somewhat lame, never mind that who knows what will happen when I go get some wood in the middle of winter.

The clothesline I had gotten at the hardware store was surprisingly expensive.
I could probably use something like the nylon twine Home Depot uses.

The local hardware store does not have the best prices but they sure are convenient, like the masonry cut off blade real yesterday which saved a 40 minute round trip to HD.

That is an excellent way to stack. If I could stack 6' tall safely it would take up alot less room. I would only need 4 rows 24' long instead of 6 rows. If my Holz Hausen doesn't pan out this year I may try Eric's system next year.

Eric I have a different spin Instead of the post I use 2/4 or planks whatever is about 5" and drive 4 20 penny common nails into the framing part of the pallet I cross stack at the ends near the post planks then fill in the middle. I many of my piles are over 5' high .
If I ever start from scratch again I will use rope 1/2 way up like you do. I have one of the lumber yard banding strap machines. I can run a couple metal bands around a pallet, put the forks on my front backhoe bucket and move a full 1/2 cord at a time

One thing I notice in your posted picure Eric, is the consistancy of split size. My splits can range from 6" long to 18" long, and many times the split can be larger on one end than the other, or there's knots, sometimes (particularly with Elm) I'll have cut the log into 8" disks, then split the disk into 3 peices resulting in a virtually rectangular center chunk and two 1/2 moon shaped side chunks etc... So with all this variation, I end up with a lot more odd size shapes than you have.

My wood stacking technique which can result in stacks as high as 7', but more typically 5'-6' is to stack on pallets. Around the outside's I stack first one direction, then the next layer is stacked 90 degrees to the first. In the center of the stack go the more odd shapes that don't lend themsleves to a stabile pile. So far I haven't had one fall over since I quit tying strings to trees (remember I had one pile fall over three times last year till you mentioned to not tie to treees ) One key to this technique is to try to use the most regular split (sort of a 1/2 log or triangular shape) that are at least 14" long around the outsides.

Most of my wood is scrounged and maybe 30% of the time I don't get the opportunity to cut my own lengths, OR the wood is elm which dictates lengths no longer than 8", regardless of diameter. If I don't cut the lengths, often they exceed my stoves 16" stated max length, so I cut them in half and end up with something like 10" lengths. A real pain for stacking and stove stuffing.

An interesting consideration for those considering a new stove is the max log length it can accept. While not a show stopper, if your getting your wood is delivered, pre-cut, This could be a massive pain if your stove won't take the wood guy's splits.

BeGreen said:

Warren said:

OR the wood is elm which dictates lengths no longer than 8", regardless of diameter. If I don't cut the lengths, often they exceed my stoves 16" stated max length, so I cut them in half and end up with something like 10" lengths. A real pain for stacking and stove stuffing.

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We're looking at taking down an elm this fall. I hadn't heard about short rounds for elm. Is this for hand splitting only? I was going to go for 16" long lengths and power split them. Will this work?

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I split with at 6lb maul, so any elm longer than 8" can be a bear to split. In general I like burning elm, I'd swear it burns better than it's BTU content indicates. It lights easily, and burns a long time.

For you with a power splitter, longer lengths would be fine, maybe still tough to tear apart, but I've never used a power splitter, so no experience with elm and hydrolics.

Eric Johnson said:

I've been told that there are male and female elms, and that one of them is impossible to split by hand while the other can be done. I think either will succumb to the right hydraulic splitter. I notice a lot of dead and dying elms around here in central NYS. They're reasonably big trees, so I don't know if they're seeing the Dutch Elm disease for the first time, or if this is just a periodic resurgence of the disease. They do grow fast around here. I've got three more in my yard that gotta come down this fall.

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Warren will be right there , he LooooooooooVES ELM . Warren , dont think you told us how much you love ELM in a wile , think it due time for a refresher .

Eric Johnson said:

I've been told that there are male and female elms, and that one of them is impossible to split by hand while the other can be done. I think either will succumb to the right hydraulic splitter. I notice a lot of dead and dying elms around here in central NYS. They're reasonably big trees, so I don't know if they're seeing the Dutch Elm disease for the first time, or if this is just a periodic resurgence of the disease. They do grow fast around here. I've got three more in my yard that gotta come down this fall.

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Let's see which one is the more difficult to split?????Male or Female...

(((Ducking)))))

Roospike said:

Eric Johnson said:

I've been told that there are male and female elms, and that one of them is impossible to split by hand while the other can be done. I think either will succumb to the right hydraulic splitter. I notice a lot of dead and dying elms around here in central NYS. They're reasonably big trees, so I don't know if they're seeing the Dutch Elm disease for the first time, or if this is just a periodic resurgence of the disease. They do grow fast around here. I've got three more in my yard that gotta come down this fall.

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Warren will be right there , he LooooooooooVES ELM . Warren , dont think you told us how much you love ELM in a wile , think it due time for a refresher .

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Your cruel....!

BUT... I'm now sure Elm is no where near as bad as trying to split wet pine rounds that are 18" across. Plus after all the splitting effort, it doesn't heat half as well as elm. I've come to terms with how hard Elm is to split, plus my technique of cutting elm into disks, then splitting seems to work o.k. Clearly Elm is Natures cruel joke and people like you are just too willing to remind those of us who are too stupid to learn or have "free elm here" dangled in front of us, that we hate that blasted wood. Well Roo...I haven't split much elm lately. It's faded from my mind a bit... It's been mostly maple for a bit, but I do have a monster elm waiting for me. It's on the ground and sitting there laughing at me just saying..."go ahead just try to cut a 16" length and split me"
(blood pressure rising a little)
Yes...I hate elm...I guess I love to hate elm. It's the ultimate wood to burn. Burning elm is such a fitting end to such a miserable material, but in the end...in a way...the elm had it's revenge...When you burn the stuff it leaves klinkers stuck to your firebrick, which seems to attract huge amounts of heat, thus destroying the firebrick. Yup elm stinks and Roo was just soooo willing to remind me that I hate that stuff....Well, thanks a LOT Roo!

;-P

(Warren takes a deep breath and remembers we're all friends here, and decides NOT to stop by Roo's house and leave a big chunk of elm on his chopping block)