pellet stove warning

What's there to be worried about? Just add an air intake pipe for the stove or crack a window a little. As hot air rises and exhaust air is blown out, fresh air will be drawn in. And with fire and CO alarms available there is no danger, especially from fire. Pellet stoves don't catch on fire and won't ignite anything else as long as no gross error is made in its installation. Go for it.

I don't fully understand that rule either. I can understand it with a more conventional wood stove or fireplace but not a pellet stove.

One can sleep in any room of the house if one so chooses.

Perhaps it's more related to the possibility of the appliance itself starting a fire but such a scenario is just as likely with any heating device.

Checkthisout said:

I don't fully understand that rule either. I can understand it with a more conventional wood stove or fireplace but not a pellet stove.

One can sleep in any room of the house if one so chooses.

Perhaps it's more related to the possibility of the appliance itself starting a fire but such a scenario is just as likely with any heating device.

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You can sleep in any room you choose UNTIL the sleeping police come knocking... won't be long!

the bull said:

so what happens say when power is lost , and stove is running and has the pan ful and burning is the smoke going to come back through to the house or will it make its way out the chimney. im sure someone has delt with this issue.

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It depends...

But if you have an OAK, combustion air is isolated from room air...

the bull said:

so what happens say when power is lost , and stove is running and has the pan ful and burning is the smoke going to come back through to the house or will it make its way out the chimney. im sure someone has delt with this issue.

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Yes, only an outside-air intact pipe will prevent smoke from flowing out the intake pipe into the room, unless...the exhaust pipe is tall enough to create a natural up-draft what will draw the hot air upward and out of the room to the outside. But one can always do what I need to do, and did do last year, which is to have a battery and power inverter ready to plug the stove into if power goes out, giving the stove enough time for the fire to burn itself out with the fans running, but you have to remember to shut-off the pellet feed. I need to buy another junk-yard battery for $15-20, which can also serve as a spare for my car, -and appliances when power is lost.

Well if you have a good CO and smoke detectors the risk in very minimal... my 92 year old mother-in-law usually crawls out of bed during the night and sleeps in her recliner 3' from the pellet stove... and she's doing better than me!

Install an OAK and you should be safe... 800 sq. ft. is a lot more forgiving than a tiny bedroom like many older homes have.

John97 said:

the bull said:

so what happens say when power is lost , and stove is running and has the pan ful and burning is the smoke going to come back through to the house or will it make its way out the chimney. im sure someone has delt with this issue.

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It depends...

But if you have an OAK, combustion air is isolated from room air...

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I wonder if this would hold true if you have, let's say a pellet stove model which has an 'airwash' on the top of the window - even if you have an oak, I can picture a smoldering burn-pot exiting gas and smoke through this 'airwash' which is what happens with my Enviro Windsor during a power outage and a full-burn - then again, I don't have an OAK!

Good point about the air-wash. I'd venture to guess that if the stove is burning good and hot when the power fails, then the updraft of the vent pipe could continue sending exhaust air up and out instead of allowing the pressure in the stove to drop completely to zero thereby causing smoke to penetrate the air-wash into the room. But the house would have to not be sealed tight or else without the exhaust fan working and pulling air in through the walls and unsealed cut-outs then air movement would stop dead. But if the vent pipe doesn't include a good length of straight vertical rise but instead is almost entirely horizontal, then there wouldn't be an up-drafting effect. Since the air in the stove is hot and expanding, it has to go someplace and much of it might continue moving in the direction that it was moving before the power failed. Of course another likely scenario is that both conditions could occur, -smoke exiting both the vent pipe and the air-wash as well as the intake pipe if there's no OAK. I think you could block smoke from exiting the intake pipe by just closing the flue. That would deprive the pellets of oxygen and put the fire out but that wouldn't stop the production of smoke. And fire is better than smoke so that wouldn't be a good move unless smoke is seen exiting it.

DexterDay said:

Is the basement room a bedroom? Or is it a finished living room/he sleeps on the couch room? Is this a room where the family spends most of there time? Heating from a basement can be done. But for a lot of folks, it can be very difficult and you may only get sub-par results.

Back to the "Room"....

If its not a bedroom (i.e.-no bed) then I would probably be legit.

But if there is a "Bed" in the room. Then by definition, it is in fact a bedroom and wouldnt be "legal" per say.

Also, if your trying to heat the upstairs, from the basement. That room will be way to warm to "sleep" in. Any way the stove can upstairs? Or are you just trying to heat that room?

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You know, I normally don't like the government getting involved in telling people how to live in their own home but this would be an exception. I don't mean to be offensive but are you seriously trying to "define" this into being justified despite the OBVIOUS AND DEADLY consequences that may occur by his kid sleeping in this room? How about making it simple, he said his kid sleeps in the same room so it is his bedroom which means he may die in that room no matter what the "legal" definition is. Darwinism at it's best, don't sleep in the room.

DexterDay said:

Is the basement room a bedroom? Or is it a finished living room/he sleeps on the couch room? Is this a room where the family spends most of there time? Heating from a basement can be done. But for a lot of folks, it can be very difficult and you may only get sub-par results.

Back to the "Room"....

If its not a bedroom (i.e.-no bed) then I would probably be legit.

But if there is a "Bed" in the room. Then by definition, it is in fact a bedroom and wouldnt be "legal" per say.

Also, if your trying to heat the upstairs, from the basement. That room will be way to warm to "sleep" in. Any way the stove can upstairs? Or are you just trying to heat that room?

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Dexter must be a lawyer, or one in a past life!

A bedroom is a specific type of room. It isn't defined by whether someone sleeps in it or not. It could be used for other uses, like an office. What it's character is is determined by the fact that it has a door that cuts it off from the air in the rest of the house, along with the fact that normally a bedroom has no plumbing. If one sleeps in a conventional garage, it is still a garage and won't be anywhere near as air-tight as a bedroom. Same with a conventional basement. It's all about air penetration. If a basement is far from air tight, then sleeping in it, even with a pellet stove nearby, does not put it into the bedroom category.

arnash said:

A bedroom is a specific type of room. It isn't defined by whether someone sleeps in it or not. It could be used for other uses, like an office. What it's character is is determined by the fact that it has a door that cuts it off from the air in the rest of the house, along with the fact that normally a bedroom has no plumbing. If one sleeps in a conventional garage, it is still a garage and won't be anywhere near as air-tight as a bedroom. Same with a conventional basement. It's all about air penetration. If a basement is far from air tight, then sleeping in it, even with a pellet stove nearby, does not put it into the bedroom category.

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Well then this must explain why know one ever dies of carbon monoxide poisoning while sleeping in anything other than a bedroom.

Death from carbon monoxide can only occur when equipment isn't working properly or one uses something like a barbecue to heat an indoor space in which they sleep. Since statistics and details for carbon monoxide poisoning are unknown, it's impossible to know how frequent or rare CO poisoning is in rooms other that bedroom-like room. But none of them result in rooms that are adequately drafty.