New Jotul - F 55

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spirilis

spirilis

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I just saw this on the Jotul North America facebook page so I'm relaying it to a thread here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l10bnq_TQjU

Looks like it's almost 3cf, Cast Iron outer/Steel inner construction just like the Rangeley, Non-Catalytic burn tubes, no ash pan or top load, supposedly improved door handle/latch, claims ~10hr burn and 2000sf (Tim the presenter in the video claims it's heating his 2200sf house with no problem), uses firebrick on the side and bottom which lets them rate it for ember protection only underneath, no R-value required.
Also with rear heat shield and an optional flue collar heat shield + double wall pipe, it can have 6 inches rear clearance.
Cast iron/Stainless Steel baffle system has a lifetime warranty.
 
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Hmmm looks like a nice stove for sure. Seems like they are coming out with more hybrid type stoves utilizing the welded firebox and cast iron outer layer sort of like a PE and now they throw in a stainless and cast baffle system with a lifetime gaurantee like PE lol. I really like the idea of a firebox with no cemented seams to worry about with the advantage of cast thermal mass still on the outside of the stove. I for one think it's about time more of the manufacturers are leaning towards the stainless baffle systems with a lifetime guarantee making for a stove with zero maintenance costs. I would have given the Rangley a very close look had they been available when I was in the market for a new stove.
 
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Yeah, seems like they admitted defeat on the Rangeley's top-load feature and designed a workhorse with tight clearances instead. Sounds like a nice option, wonder what the price point will be (goes on sale Feb 1)
 
That looks like a stove that would appeal to me, simple, rugged, and you can tuck it close to a wall. I wonder if the firebox is roughly square in dimension so you can burn NS and EW?
 
I wonder if the firebox is the same size.
 
I seem to recall some mention of a barebones version of the Rangeley being in the works. I think this is it. Take the top-loading mechanism out of the F50 and stack the wood higher --> "almost-3-cu-ft" F55. Looks like a tough competitor, if priced agressively, which is probably the idea. Can't wait to see the thermometer option. :p
 
Ya i noticed the thermometer.lol
 
Lol they should toss in the fireplace gloves from the Rangeley and a 100ct box of Supercedars for free ;-)
 
They do toss the long gloves in.10-4 on the super cedars
 
I'd rather have the top loader. I also wish they would offer a cat model like they use to.
 
Looks like we bought our Rangely too soon. We would much prefer no top loading because of the way the Rangely has designed this feature and also no ash drawer.
The stainless steel baffle and life time warranty also looks like a plus.

Oh well, better luck next time.

btw, we have put a steel plate over the grate in the stove and do not use the ash drawer. Now we can get a good base of hot coals and regulate the amount of ash we want to keep. When there is too much ash we just have to shovel it out. The firebricks on the bottom in this new model seem like a great idea.
 
Having run both, I don't miss top loading, at all. And I have a lot more hair on my arm to prove it. I think this is a smart move for Jotul, ME. One of the reasons the T6 was attractive to me was simplicity. The T55 looks like a pretty simple stove. If it's priced competitively it should do well, especially on the east coast.
 
Todd said:
I'd rather have the top loader. I also wish they would offer a cat model like they use to.
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For whatever it's worth, I tossed in the cat idea as a suggestion on their facebook page... there was a post by them back in Dec. asking for product ideas.
 
Its a good looking stove!, while the top load feature is nice as time goes by I have used it less...

No ash pan tho?
 
I'm with ya Walt. I hardly ever top load the Rangeley. Can get a little smoke in the house under certain conditions and have to move my thermometer and steamer to do it. Just easier to front load although it can get messy if the ash is deep in the firebox.

Love those gloves they included!

The F55 looks great but I miss the top the Rangeley has. Straight black just doesn't have the wow that attracted me to the Rangeley in the first place. Top loading wouldn't be missed but the ash pan would be. I like the Rangeley's ash pan design with the wide, flat grate to allow ash to fall through. I want that door handle from the video! Looking around for the handle is getting annoying.

The F55 should be a run-away seller if the price is under the Rangeley. Actually if it were under $2K it'd be tough NOT to recommend or buy this thing unless you needed or wanted a small stove.
 
MasterMech said:
I'm with ya Walt. I hardly ever top load the Rangeley. Can get a little smoke in the house under certain conditions and have to move my thermometer and steamer to do it. Just easier to front load although it can get messy if the ash is deep in the firebox.

Love those gloves they included!

The F55 looks great but I miss the top the Rangeley has. Straight black just doesn't have the wow that attracted me to the Rangeley in the first place. Top loading wouldn't be missed but the ash pan would be. I like the Rangeley's ash pan design with the wide, flat grate to allow ash to fall through. I want that door handle from the video! Looking around for the handle is getting annoying.

The F55 should be a run-away seller if the price is under the Rangeley. Actually if it were under $2K it'd be tough NOT to recommend or buy this thing unless you needed or wanted a small stove.
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We have the Rangely and were very dissatisfied with the fall away handle. We got in touch with Jotul and they offered us the newly designed handle. It is great. As Tim says in the video, same action as the old handle, but it stays cool and does not fall off.
Ask your supplier to get in touch with Jotul about the handle and complain about the old one.
There are 2 things we are wodering about the new design of stove. What is the size of the firebox and what will the price be.
 
The Stainless Steel plate on the Rangeley definitely gives it a highlight I would miss. I stopped emptying my ash pan and leave it full, just removing ash from the fire box when needed. The stove runs remarkably better this way and the full ash pan helps the primary air draw. I have a key damper and with it closed and the primary open, I get impressive burns and secondaries. I use the front load for normal ops. As far as the top load, when the time comes to bank that baby full with nice splits of Ash or Oak, it guarantees overnight burn and early morning Chernobyl coals. Of course I will have to play with the F55 at my local dealer when it shows up.

Stay warm, Jim
 
I had Rocky's contact Jotul and they told me i can't get this new handle until the 55 comes into circulation in the 1st quarter of the year.Also they wouldn't comment on the price of the handle.
 
Same clearances as the 50 TL
 
Okay folks, this may cause a stir...

I just got word from a Jotul deal that I've been talking with... price on the F55: $2199. Again, this is word from a Massachusetts Jotul dealer, I'm just the messenger!
 
Bretonburner said:
KennyK,
Do you know what the size of the new firebox is ? Is it different than the older version ?
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If you watch the video that starts this strand (which is really cool!) "Tim, the wood stove guy" says that the firebox is "almost 3 cubic feet."

Kenny
 
KennyK said:
Okay folks, this may cause a stir...

I just got word from a Jotul deal that I've been talking with... price on the F55: $2199. Again, this is word from a Massachusetts Jotul dealer, I'm just the messenger!
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We live in Canada and I do not know whether the new price is higher or lower than the original Rangely in the U.S. Prices can be quite different in Canada.
 
Do we know yet whether the F55 will have the option of steel or castiron sides like the Rangeley? Or will it be castiron or steel jacket only?
 
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