Rear tube secondaries burning grooves in 30NC board
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precaud
Minister of Fire
I see a little of it forming in the X33. Makes sense that high temp, high velocity air flowing across a fibrous baffle material would form grooves after a while.
My stove is on year 4, and yes there are marks, but they aren't even 1/6 of the way through the baffle.
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HotCoals
Minister of Fire
I'll show you mine if you show me yours
Sure it's wear and not just discoloration or buildup of ash making it look like the baffle is wearing away? Mine looks like the face of the moon but in no way is looking as though it's getting ready to blow through w/out me putting the poker through it.
pen
Sure it's wear and not just discoloration or buildup of ash making it look like the baffle is wearing away? Mine looks like the face of the moon but in no way is looking as though it's getting ready to blow through w/out me putting the poker through it.
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raybonz
Minister of Fire
To me it looks like fine ash with a path created by hot air blowing out of the tube manifold holes.. I doubt you will burn that refractory material that stuff can take some wicked heat..
Ray
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precaud
Minister of Fire
Any buildup I get on the walls and baffle of my firebox gets totally burned off once the stove gets hot. The firebricks don't have any soot on them at all. My baffle gets black from the paper I use to start a fire, but it also burns off totally once it gets hot. Sometimes the glass on my door will ash up a bit as the fire dies, but nothing on the baffle.
raybonz
Minister of Fire
Battleaxe said:
How do you like the Vogelzang Performer so far? Not much posted about them here.. Maybe you could start a post telling us about your experiences with it..
Ray
raybonz said:
I really like it a lot. It seems a lot like the NC30 in construction but not as tall, hence the smaller firebox. I was looking for a stove to squeeze into my fireplace opening and I figured out how to shorten the pedestal on the Performer so it would easily fit. I have 5-1/2" of clearance to the top and sides of the masonry firebox. I put a 6" flexible stainless liner up the 15' masonry chimney wrapped with 2" of kaowool and packed the damper area of the fireplace with roxul and also packed the top of the chimney around the liner with roxul just under the cap. It draws really well and the primary air control is generally 1/4 to 1/2 open during a typical burn (500 stovetop) and have only had to close it all the way a few times when I got the stove hotter (8-900). Fires start up easily and I always have nothing but fine ashes left in the firebox when I let it burn out. I've been getting 8-10 hour burns regularly. I got it on sale at Menards for $699 at the beginning of December, which seemed like a great deal.
I wanted an NC30 but just couldn't make it work in my fireplace; the opening is 36.5" wide and 25.5" high.
raybonz
Minister of Fire
Battleaxe said:raybonz said:
I really like it a lot. It seems a lot like the NC30 in construction but not as tall, hence the smaller firebox. I was looking for a stove to squeeze into my fireplace opening and I figured out how to shorten the pedestal on the Performer so it would easily fit. I have 5-1/2" of clearance to the top and sides of the masonry firebox. I put a 6" flexible stainless liner up the 15' masonry chimney wrapped with 2" of kaowool and packed the damper area of the fireplace with roxul and also packed the top of the chimney around the liner with roxul just under the cap. It draws really well and the primary air control is generally 1/4 to 1/2 open during a typical burn (500 stovetop) and have only had to close it all the way a few times when I got the stove hotter (8-900). Fires start up easily and I always have nothing but fine ashes left in the firebox when I let it burn out. I've been getting 8-10 hour burns regularly. I got it on sale at Menards for $699 at the beginning of December, which seemed like a great deal.
I wanted an NC30 but just couldn't make it work in my fireplace; the opening is 36.5" wide and 25.5" high.
I copied and pasted your link as it doesn't work.. Your stove and install look very nice! If I remember right the Vogelzang stoves are a bit lighter than Englander equivalents but much better than the old boxwood stoves and safe! Quite a while back some members had blower problems and they were sent new parts..
Ray
raybonz said:
I didn't install the blower on it. I just blow a table fan into one side to get the heat into the room. It's quieter, no power cord running into the hearth, and cheaper to replace. If anybody needs a brand new blower in the box for this stove let me know.
Huntindog1
Minister of Fire
That FB looks like the ought to to me. He has been burning good wood hot for it to look that way.precaud said:
Wish I could get a pic of the middle of my baffle boards glowing red hot from the flames licking it and the secondary air finishing off the job.
precaud
Minister of Fire
wkpoor said:
It was a joke, wk. I thought the smiley would make that clear.
Just took this snap of the inside of the Kent before I reload it (no sun today so I'm burning...). Clean as a whistle, and with no burn tubes. But then, it has gold-plated firebrick (BG's words, not mine), so it had better be clean!
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I'll show you mine if you show me yours
Sure it's wear and not just discoloration or buildup of ash making it look like the baffle is wearing away? Mine looks like the face of the moon but in no way is looking as though it's getting ready to blow through w/out me putting the poker through it.
pen
Hi All
I have done this tubes on a old stove, but now I see there the tubes have all the same amound of holes except front holes are bigger then the behind ones,
I have seen somewhere this is done but a lot more holes in the back, here I see it is different.
Can you guys tell me how wide the firebox is? mine is 52 cm, and the stones are these special, for insulates the fire, I get the hot air not hot enough.
The lower 5 x 5 tube rvs I go set in some extra baffles to get more air kontakt and so heating.
I just need to now how much holes the tubes has, because I see now I did it wrong.
My firebricks are 5 cm thick, and yellow, I do see that the tubes between it do give to much loss to the stones I think and get air not hot enough.
http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x92/kees50/DSCN1845_zps49a3ec3d.jpg
Thanks with that info I can do some more tests.
regards
kees
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