Vegetable oil firestarters

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allhandsworking

Feeling the Heat
Sep 30, 2008
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NYC
I have been dipping news paper twists into waste oil and it is an awesome fire starter! 3 twists and I can close the doors and pretty much walk away! No fussing! Come back in 15 minutes and close air intake 1/3! Anyone do this? Or think its not a good thing?
 
I wouldn't put it my stove but that's just me.
Also not sure if it might create a fire hazard in your pipe or liner?
Doing this will probably void any warranty you might have.
 
allhandsworking said:
I have been dipping news paper twists into waste oil and it is an awesome fire starter! 3 twists and I can close the doors and pretty much walk away! No fussing! Come back in 15 minutes and close air intake 1/3! Anyone do this? Or think its not a good thing?


That part in bold is what bothers me. I do not like walking away from a stove when starting a fire. Best to stay with the stove until all is under control. It is still also difficult to beat the super cedars for starting fires.
 
Remmy122 said:
is the waste oil vegetable oil?
yes vegetable oil only!
 
Backwoods Savage said:
allhandsworking said:
I have been dipping news paper twists into waste oil and it is an awesome fire starter! 3 twists and I can close the doors and pretty much walk away! No fussing! Come back in 15 minutes and close air intake 1/3! Anyone do this? Or think its not a good thing?


That part in bold is what bothers me. I do not like walking away from a stove when starting a fire. Best to stay with the stove until all is under control. It is still also difficult to beat the super cedars for starting fires.
I still like to fuss with it though I must admit, I'll keep an eye on it!
 
A very small amount is all it takes.
 
My parents use two or three brickettes of no name best choice or whatever 'match light' charcoal in with some small pieces of splits or kindling and presto. The charcoal can be found dirt cheap in the fall to winter months. They burn for quite awhile and put out a good amount of heat and if the wood is dry or split they will usually get things going without kindling fussing at all with it.
 
The danger with oil is that it might make vapors which build up then explode. That is why you shouldn't use gasoline, kerosene, etc. in a wood stove. I don't really know if vegetable oil can vapoize or how easily it vaporizes. I don't think vegetable oil is very likely to explode but I'd worry about the can of waste oil getting spilled and being really hard to clean up or leaving the room smelling like french fries for a long time. On second thought maybe that wouldn't be so bad. Mmmm French fries.
 
I don't think we're talking about more than a few tablespoons of oil total, people- and in a cold stove. It's not going to vaporize without burning, condense in the pipe in any serious way, etc. Pine with pitch in it has volatile flammable materials in greater quantities and I've seen it boiling out of white pine bark.
 
Adios Pantalones said:
I don't think we're talking about more than a few tablespoons of oil total, people- and in a cold stove. It's not going to vaporize without burning, condense in the pipe in any serious way, etc. Pine with pitch in it has volatile flammable materials in greater quantities and I've seen it boiling out of white pine bark.
+1 . What wood the temp be in a fryer , I wonder?
 
inevitabLEE said:
Adios Pantalones said:
I don't think we're talking about more than a few tablespoons of oil total, people- and in a cold stove. It's not going to vaporize without burning, condense in the pipe in any serious way, etc. Pine with pitch in it has volatile flammable materials in greater quantities and I've seen it boiling out of white pine bark.
+1 . What wood the temp be in a fryer , I wonder?

exactly,

I just use the 3 knots of paper.
 
I wouldn't be too concerned . . . small amount of veggie oil and used as a fire starter in a cold stove. I might not leave the stove unattended for 15 minutes though.
 
Adios Pantalones said:
I don't think we're talking about more than a few tablespoons of oil total, people- and in a cold stove. It's not going to vaporize without burning, condense in the pipe in any serious way, etc. Pine with pitch in it has volatile flammable materials in greater quantities and I've seen it boiling out of white pine bark.
The problem I have seen is that they think the stove is cold, but a few embers left starts heating things up before the match is lit (had to go get a couple more small pieces of kindling), causing vaporization, then when the match goes in, or worse when the wood in contact with the embers ignites, so do the vapors.
 
Adios Pantalones said:
I don't think we're talking about more than a few tablespoons of oil total, people- and in a cold stove. It's not going to vaporize without burning, condense in the pipe in any serious way, etc. Pine with pitch in it has volatile flammable materials in greater quantities and I've seen it boiling out of white pine bark.
. Some times the oil actually snuffs out the news paper twist it's not until the wood starts to burn a bit that the oil actually starts to burn. Also very little smoke is produce. A nice clean flame will burn for abot 5-10 minutes!
 
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