I dont believe they should, but since they were so concerned with having stoves with better combustion they would ban unseasoned wood burning. Having people burn seasoned wood would be just as good as the stoves they helped bring to market. Just thinking.
EPA should ban unseasoned wood burning
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Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
corey21
Minister of Fire
firebroad
Minister of Fire
Might be better to make sure wood sellers don't sell wet wood. Especially when they advertise it as "seasoned".
firebroad said:
That's true. There should be a legal limit for moisture content and calling it "seasoned".
MishMouse
Minister of Fire
Or a better suggestion would be to design a stove that burns > 90% efficiency with less then seasoned wood.
Saying a ban on unseasoned wood would give the EPA the authority to come into your home and fine you if the moisture meter does not read what they want it to read.
Saying a ban on unseasoned wood would give the EPA the authority to come into your home and fine you if the moisture meter does not read what they want it to read.
kenny chaos
Minister of Fire
JustWood
Minister of Fire
Ja, forget about personal responsibility on the homeowner/woodburners part.joecool85 said:
I witnessed first hand how the government (USDA) handled the EAB and it was/is a joke.
If I had to season all the wood I sell for 2+ years I'd charge $600 cord. It wood take 3 times the handling I do now and 20 acres of ground.
What's next ,,,,,, regulated well done sushi
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Backwoods Savage
Minister of Fire
inevitabLEE said:Ja, forget about personal responsibility on the homeowners part.joecool85 said:
I witnessed first hand how the government (USDA) handled the EAB and it was/is a joke.
If I had to season all the wood I sell for 2+ years I'd charge $600 cord. It wood take 3 times the handling I do now and 20 acres of ground.
What's next ,,,,,, regulated well done sushi
Right on Lee.
inevitabLEE said:..regulated well done sushi
Have it on Hilton property and it is by their rules. Yep. They cook the Sushi.
Seasoned Oak
Minister of Fire
inevitabLEE said:Ja, forget about personal responsibility on the homeowner/woodburners part.joecool85 said:
I witnessed first hand how the government (USDA) handled the EAB and it was/is a joke.
If I had to season all the wood I sell for 2+ years I'd charge $600 cord. It wood take 3 times the handling I do now and 20 acres of ground.
What's next ,,,,,, regulated well done sushi
As long as you dont try to claim it is already seasoned,no harm done.
LLigetfa
Minister of Fire
No stove burns > 90% efficiency with even dry wood. Take out the "burns > 90% efficiency" requirement and you have an OWB. Those OWB guys claim they are designed to burn green wood. Heck they even have one called Greenwood.MishMouse said:
The EPA stoves won't burn green wood anyway so this whole thread topic is moot.
Singed Eyebrows
Minister of Fire
Then you probably wouldn't like the German solution either. Last I heard they test your boiler/stove for emissions with a drop down probe in the chimney. If it doesn't pass you are given a chance to correct it. When they come back if it doesn't pass the heating appliance goes with them. RandyMishMouse said:
By the definition provided by the Department of Energy a seller could actually sell what we call wet wood as "seasoned".
"Seasoned Wood
Wood, used for fuel, that has been air dried so that it contains 15 to 20 percent moisture content (wet basis)."
Since wet basis wood of 15 to 20 percent would represent a dry basis of 18 - 33% then anything he sells you under 33% dry basis is by definition "seasoned wood". Since wood moisture meters are calibrated on dry basis what you think is 20 percent wood would be legal for a seller to call 33% wood.
Have fun.
"Seasoned Wood
Wood, used for fuel, that has been air dried so that it contains 15 to 20 percent moisture content (wet basis)."
Since wet basis wood of 15 to 20 percent would represent a dry basis of 18 - 33% then anything he sells you under 33% dry basis is by definition "seasoned wood". Since wood moisture meters are calibrated on dry basis what you think is 20 percent wood would be legal for a seller to call 33% wood.
Have fun.
jharkin
Minister of Fire
Banning unseasoned wood... that's about as enforceable as the speed limit. good luck.
And I have to disagree it would solve the smoke issue. An airtight (pre-epa) stove with the air choked off is going to smoulder and smoke no matter how dry the wood. There may be less smoke but it will still be smoke.
And I have to disagree it would solve the smoke issue. An airtight (pre-epa) stove with the air choked off is going to smoulder and smoke no matter how dry the wood. There may be less smoke but it will still be smoke.
CTYank said:
“Seasoned Wood
Wood, used for fuel, that has been air dried so that it contains 15 to 20 percent moisture content (wet basis).â€
Mrs. Krabappel
Minister of Fire
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