I asked this before and did not get a reply which I think means no, any one remember the detailed article about changing the gasket out on a Summit? I have looked every where and can not locate it.
Summit door gasket? Updated with pics.
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Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
Here are a few posts on the gasket. Some have photos.
Some of these are a few years old, but you can get a look at the gaskets I have used/tried. Etc.
I know for a fact on the Summit I have, nothing smaller than 7/8" will do crap. I still liked the seal I got with the 1" stuff. No mistaking the door was SEALED!
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/23534/P0/
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/10112/
Some of these are a few years old, but you can get a look at the gaskets I have used/tried. Etc.
I know for a fact on the Summit I have, nothing smaller than 7/8" will do crap. I still liked the seal I got with the 1" stuff. No mistaking the door was SEALED!
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/23534/P0/
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/10112/
I posted twice this morning..hours ago..and they never appeared...this is a test? Any idea why they got lost?
Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
Ok, Happen to have some 1" round and 7/8" flat. The flat is dense graphite coated. The 1" has a core of rope gasket wrapped with yet another rope gasket casing around the core. Both 1" and 7/8" graphite coated.
Pics show side by side from 2 angles. Then next to each other, if you look hard enough, you can see how the 1" behind the 7/8" stands higher.
The 7/8" is 7/8" from side to side on the flat side. I didn't measure, but it is about 5/8" or so thick flat top to flat bottom.
Trust me, I changed the gasket 4x. Anything smaller than the 7/8" flat ain't going to seal, and the 7/8" flat don't seal that great to start with. When I used the 1" it sealed perfect. And had to adjust the latch catch out a bit.
Don't want to stress the latch too much with too tight a door, as it will wear the cast door or the washers on each side of the latch. The only reason I went back to 7/8" was I replaced the glass, and wanted to give the 7/8" a shot again. Still not as tight as I want on the lower latch side corner. I will be going back to 1" whenever I need to change the gasket again. The softer gaskets even 3/4" will not seal good. Been there tried that.
If you need, I can give you step by step how I do the gasket replacement. Pretty simple, just have to make sure the old adhesive is cleaned off the door. Wire wheel works good for this. Then I cleaned mating surface with rubbing alcohol.
Pics show side by side from 2 angles. Then next to each other, if you look hard enough, you can see how the 1" behind the 7/8" stands higher.
The 7/8" is 7/8" from side to side on the flat side. I didn't measure, but it is about 5/8" or so thick flat top to flat bottom.
Trust me, I changed the gasket 4x. Anything smaller than the 7/8" flat ain't going to seal, and the 7/8" flat don't seal that great to start with. When I used the 1" it sealed perfect. And had to adjust the latch catch out a bit.
Don't want to stress the latch too much with too tight a door, as it will wear the cast door or the washers on each side of the latch. The only reason I went back to 7/8" was I replaced the glass, and wanted to give the 7/8" a shot again. Still not as tight as I want on the lower latch side corner. I will be going back to 1" whenever I need to change the gasket again. The softer gaskets even 3/4" will not seal good. Been there tried that.
If you need, I can give you step by step how I do the gasket replacement. Pretty simple, just have to make sure the old adhesive is cleaned off the door. Wire wheel works good for this. Then I cleaned mating surface with rubbing alcohol.
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Hogwildz: thanks for the pictures on the previous link. The one in the pic obviously looks like the 1" round you said you put in a few years ago. Right?
My question today is how thick the flat gasket it. Found one that is 1/4 thick and flat but 1/4 inch does not seem to me to be thick enough. I think I like the idea of the 1" round or maybe 7/8" round as the thicker the better and there seems to be plenty of room in there to do either. Would also go with the graphite impregnated for sure. Appreciate all your searching and input on the subject...Thanks...alot.
Hogwildz: thanks for the pictures on the previous link. The one in the pic obviously looks like the 1" round you said you put in a few years ago. Right?
My question today is how thick the flat gasket it. Found one that is 1/4 thick and flat but 1/4 inch does not seem to me to be thick enough. I think I like the idea of the 1" round or maybe 7/8" round as the thicker the better and there seems to be plenty of room in there to do either. Would also go with the graphite impregnated for sure. Appreciate all your searching and input on the subject...Thanks...alot.
Thanks, much appreciated. All I can seem to find around here is this this stuff. Search continues. No rush, holding up fine right now.
Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
Thats way too thin Skin!
Check ACE hardware online. If need be, PM me, and I can find a way to hook you up.
You can order the original gasket from Tom at Chimneysweeponline.com
Check ACE hardware online. If need be, PM me, and I can find a way to hook you up.
You can order the original gasket from Tom at Chimneysweeponline.com
I figured as much. Will stop in to see my dealer next week, see what they have to say. did you get the Gasket material yet?
Hogwildz
Minister of Fire
As a matter of fact, just got the mail, and wallah!! Gasket materials. Thanks man! Can't stop the stove now, but in the spring, I have some ideas I am going to work on.SKIN052 said:
Thanks again! I'll let you know what I come up with.
hardwood715
Feeling the Heat
Saw Elk in those old posts, hehehe I use to cringe when I posted something stupid, he had me so scared i yanked my 450 pound stove out of the fireplace to check a seal...duh! Or the time i ran through the living room with a smouldering split clamped in tongs-
to toss out back cause I didn't want to crud up my chimney... unreal !
to toss out back cause I didn't want to crud up my chimney... unreal !
Here is what I just ordered from Ebay. It's 6' x 1" rope... Hope it will do the trick
I will certainly wait till spring to do the job when keeping this old house warm is not an issue.
Thanks for everyone for their input and informationl
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390082024352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
I will certainly wait till spring to do the job when keeping this old house warm is not an issue.
Thanks for everyone for their input and informationl
Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/390082024352?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Hope it works for you. Truth is, my gasket seems fine, just starting to fall off on the bottom corner. Think I will just consider taking it out, clean the channel and apply a bead of gasket silicone. Reapply old gasket.
Went to load up the stove this morning and just my luck, the gasket fell off, dang it. Back up plan in full swing. Let the stove cool and pick up some gasket cement, flip the gasket and hope for the best. For what it's worth I took a couple pics,
Pic of the door with the gasket removed, just a rough clean at this point,
Pic of the door after a better cleaning, still a little stained but down to rough metal, would suggest a dremel wire wheel if you are planning to do this,
Pic of the gasket and tools used (Large screw driver, wire brush and some emery cloth). This is the side of the gasket that is touching the stove, hard to see but their is a prominent grove here, I plan to flip this around and have this side touching the door.
Other side of the gasket, note the splice. The splice is actually just a wrap that fell off and I had to lay it back in place. This side will now be touching the stove.
This pic is trying to show the odd size of this gasket, very thick but certainly a flat gasket,
Bead of Gasket cement, very disappointed in my neatness, I fixed it up a little but still, not impressed.
Gasket back in place, after a test fit I noticed that it sets much better with the gasket pushed in flush around the window, towards the middle in other words.
I put the door back on closed it tight, after fine tuning the latch, had to be pulled out has it now sits out much prouder than before. Now to wait for the one hour dry time and start a small fire, time will tell. Very cold day as well, -12c the electric heat is just not the same.
Pic of the door with the gasket removed, just a rough clean at this point,
Pic of the door after a better cleaning, still a little stained but down to rough metal, would suggest a dremel wire wheel if you are planning to do this,
Pic of the gasket and tools used (Large screw driver, wire brush and some emery cloth). This is the side of the gasket that is touching the stove, hard to see but their is a prominent grove here, I plan to flip this around and have this side touching the door.
Other side of the gasket, note the splice. The splice is actually just a wrap that fell off and I had to lay it back in place. This side will now be touching the stove.
This pic is trying to show the odd size of this gasket, very thick but certainly a flat gasket,
Bead of Gasket cement, very disappointed in my neatness, I fixed it up a little but still, not impressed.
Gasket back in place, after a test fit I noticed that it sets much better with the gasket pushed in flush around the window, towards the middle in other words.
I put the door back on closed it tight, after fine tuning the latch, had to be pulled out has it now sits out much prouder than before. Now to wait for the one hour dry time and start a small fire, time will tell. Very cold day as well, -12c the electric heat is just not the same.
Skin;
Thanks for sharing the pics and info. Looking at how thick it is I am convinced that it is a very proprietary gasket from PE. They wanted $33.00 for the exact replacement but no one seemed to have one of the dealers I contacted...said would have to order from PE company. Dealer said that it was not a flat or a rope..said it was sort of oval shaped. Any way I have moved on as stated to the 1" round. Hope the fix holds up for ya...
Thanks for sharing the pics and info. Looking at how thick it is I am convinced that it is a very proprietary gasket from PE. They wanted $33.00 for the exact replacement but no one seemed to have one of the dealers I contacted...said would have to order from PE company. Dealer said that it was not a flat or a rope..said it was sort of oval shaped. Any way I have moved on as stated to the 1" round. Hope the fix holds up for ya...
So much for the small fire idea, stove cruising at 600 and no signs of air leaks. I did notice a couple of large POP's from towards the front of the stove. Estimated it to be the gasket material drying out as it seemed a little runny to me.
And yes, oval is a good way to describe the gasket.
And yes, oval is a good way to describe the gasket.
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