greythorn3
Minister of Fire
i usually walk to the wood stove when i got to fart, then it sucks it right up and out the chimney so the other family members dont gotta suffer.
I really miss the smell of wood smoke.
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HighHeat22
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I take real risks when I go to the mail box too. I take my fully armoured and loaded humvee to get the mail.
I imagine a ton of things are harmful taken to the ninth degree.
Is everyone talking about Cat stoves here when they say you should not be smelling wood outside ?. I have a newer epa stove non CAT and I smell wood outside my home when wind is right.
People have been smelling burning wood for century's does that mean new stoves will come with government warning labels for the smoke smell.
To me cigarette poison inhaled into the body would be 1,000,000 times more harmful in the body than burning wood smell.
I love the smell of burning wood and will till the day I die from it. ha ha.
I imagine a ton of things are harmful taken to the ninth degree.
Is everyone talking about Cat stoves here when they say you should not be smelling wood outside ?. I have a newer epa stove non CAT and I smell wood outside my home when wind is right.
People have been smelling burning wood for century's does that mean new stoves will come with government warning labels for the smoke smell.
To me cigarette poison inhaled into the body would be 1,000,000 times more harmful in the body than burning wood smell.
I love the smell of burning wood and will till the day I die from it. ha ha.
Martin Strand III
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HighHeat22 said:
You just may.
Don't take my word for it. Wood smoke is much worse than tobacco smoke.
"Wood Smoke vs. Cigarette Smoke
Although many people associate tobacco smoke with certain health risks, research indicates that second hand wood smoke has potentially even greater ability to damage health. A comparison between tobacco smoke and wood smoke using electron spin resonance revealed quite startling results (Rozenberg 2001, Wood Smoke is More Damaging than Tobacco Smoke). Tobacco smoke causes damage in the body for approximately 30 seconds after it is inhaled. Wood smoke, however, continues to be chemically active and cause damage to cells in the body for up to 20 minutes, or 40 times longer."
And, read more about it here.
Ref: http://des.nh.gov/organization/divisions/air/cb/ceps/npsap/smoke.htm
Aye,
Marty
HighHeat22
Member
Sorry Marty s. I was just kidding. I had no idea of the severity or the facts involved.
Are you talking about just a brief like seconds smelling of wood smoke outside or a prolonged like hours smelling of wood smoke.
That is a very good article. I had no idea. At least with a EPA stove it is 85% better.
Are you talking about just a brief like seconds smelling of wood smoke outside or a prolonged like hours smelling of wood smoke.
That is a very good article. I had no idea. At least with a EPA stove it is 85% better.
Martin Strand III
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HighHeat22 said:
Like I said above,
" For those who like the smell of wood smoke, ask yourself
“How much poison can I take?†"
Aye,
Marty
Lumber-Jack
Minister of Fire
Marty I think you are trying to sensationalize this thread with your link.
There is no doubt that wood smoke can have potential harmful effects, especially when a person is exposed to it in high concentrations over prolong periods of time, but that is true of just about everything. As far as I can see most people in this thread who are saying they like the smell of wood smoke are talking about catching the occasional whiff, not sitting in a house full of smoke.
I live in an area where summer forest fires are as common as lightning storms, in fact the two go hand in hand. We have gone for weeks, and sometimes months, at a time where the sky is so hazy with smoke from forest fires that in one day you could inhale a lifetime of whiffs of smoke. Is it good for you? Obviously not. Are people dropping like flies? No.
Humans have lived and worked with smoke and fire for all their recorded history and it’s only recently that a tiny percentage of the population that live in developed Western areas with such luxuries as modern air conditioners and air purifiers have had any sort of option of not being constantly exposed to smoke.
Truth is, just about everything is bad for you. For instance, like a lot of people I like to eat a nice juicy steak every once in a while. Without much effort I could supply you with many links to documentation showing just how bad red meat is for you, especially if you cook it on a BBQ. I could go on and on with things similar things that people eat of expose themselves to every day that can be shown to be harmful. Google “toxic chemicals in dryer sheets†if you’d like to do more reading.
Anyway, my point is I don’t think anybody is gona die one minute earlier because they enjoy catching the occasional whiff of smoke from their wood stove.
There is no doubt that wood smoke can have potential harmful effects, especially when a person is exposed to it in high concentrations over prolong periods of time, but that is true of just about everything. As far as I can see most people in this thread who are saying they like the smell of wood smoke are talking about catching the occasional whiff, not sitting in a house full of smoke.
I live in an area where summer forest fires are as common as lightning storms, in fact the two go hand in hand. We have gone for weeks, and sometimes months, at a time where the sky is so hazy with smoke from forest fires that in one day you could inhale a lifetime of whiffs of smoke. Is it good for you? Obviously not. Are people dropping like flies? No.
Humans have lived and worked with smoke and fire for all their recorded history and it’s only recently that a tiny percentage of the population that live in developed Western areas with such luxuries as modern air conditioners and air purifiers have had any sort of option of not being constantly exposed to smoke.
Truth is, just about everything is bad for you. For instance, like a lot of people I like to eat a nice juicy steak every once in a while. Without much effort I could supply you with many links to documentation showing just how bad red meat is for you, especially if you cook it on a BBQ. I could go on and on with things similar things that people eat of expose themselves to every day that can be shown to be harmful. Google “toxic chemicals in dryer sheets†if you’d like to do more reading.
Anyway, my point is I don’t think anybody is gona die one minute earlier because they enjoy catching the occasional whiff of smoke from their wood stove.
BobUrban
Minister of Fire
Yea I just wear a respirator 24/7 - it took a while to get used to eating all my purried vegan food through a straw but I know I am going to live longer than most so it is certainly worth it!!
Are you kidding me - not that I want to be on the down wind side of a bonfire(I hate rabbits, I hate rabbits) but I certainly enjoy the wiff of wood smoke now and then. From a safety/health standpoint I get accused of being "safety man" all the time because I use ear plugs, eye protection, etc.. when running any sort of power tool and even a respirator when the circumstance dictates but geesh!! - a little wiff of wood smoke being more dangerous than being a smoker? I am not buying it, no matter what google or bing says.
BTW - I am currently burning a non EPA Defiant and poluting the heck out of my neighbors... alegedly! Plan to upgrade for next season but only for the, "more heat, less wood" reason and really has nothing to do with the carcinogens being emmited. OH, and I eat red meat too - lots of it.
Now if you want to talk about fast food and soda pop - that there, I believe, is the devil. I don't see many people with emphasima from wood heating of their homes but I do see a ton of severely overweight people in America and going past the drive thru at lunch time doesn't show any signs of the line getting shorter.
I like the smell of wood smoke!
Burn on brother of the fire!
Are you kidding me - not that I want to be on the down wind side of a bonfire(I hate rabbits, I hate rabbits) but I certainly enjoy the wiff of wood smoke now and then. From a safety/health standpoint I get accused of being "safety man" all the time because I use ear plugs, eye protection, etc.. when running any sort of power tool and even a respirator when the circumstance dictates but geesh!! - a little wiff of wood smoke being more dangerous than being a smoker? I am not buying it, no matter what google or bing says.
BTW - I am currently burning a non EPA Defiant and poluting the heck out of my neighbors... alegedly! Plan to upgrade for next season but only for the, "more heat, less wood" reason and really has nothing to do with the carcinogens being emmited. OH, and I eat red meat too - lots of it.
Now if you want to talk about fast food and soda pop - that there, I believe, is the devil. I don't see many people with emphasima from wood heating of their homes but I do see a ton of severely overweight people in America and going past the drive thru at lunch time doesn't show any signs of the line getting shorter.
I like the smell of wood smoke!
Burn on brother of the fire!
infinitymike
Minister of Fire
I miss the smell of smoke so much I was considering snorting some ashes. :cheese:
They should make cologne that smells like smoke!
I am very disappointed with the smell that comes out of the Wood Gun.
When it is just getting to temp it stinks like burning rubber or an electrical fire.
When it is burning good with a stack temp of 350* - 400* it still has a faint rubber like smell.
The only time I get to smell the smoke is when I am reloading and it fills my garage up. MAN do I love that smell!
I love it when my hands smell like smoke from reloading.
I quit smoking cigarettes 9 years ago and definitely don't miss them, but I still like to be down wind of a cigarette, or even better, a good cigar.
The only good thing is there is somebody in my neighborhood who burns in a fireplace, that really fills the place up with that wonderful smoke smell!
They should make cologne that smells like smoke!
I am very disappointed with the smell that comes out of the Wood Gun.
When it is just getting to temp it stinks like burning rubber or an electrical fire.
When it is burning good with a stack temp of 350* - 400* it still has a faint rubber like smell.
The only time I get to smell the smoke is when I am reloading and it fills my garage up. MAN do I love that smell!
I love it when my hands smell like smoke from reloading.
I quit smoking cigarettes 9 years ago and definitely don't miss them, but I still like to be down wind of a cigarette, or even better, a good cigar.
The only good thing is there is somebody in my neighborhood who burns in a fireplace, that really fills the place up with that wonderful smoke smell!
Martin Strand III
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Carbon_Liberator said:
The link was meant to be informative. From reading some posts on this, some have no clue they actually enjoy breathing just a 'little bit of poison'.
Since this Forum is about wood burning, the truth should come out at some point.
Aye,
Marty
Grandpa used to say, "Sometimes to expose the ridiculous you have to be ridiculous."
mikepinto65
Minister of Fire
k9brain said:
This is the biggest thing I miss. I can still smell the slight smell outside when times are right (especially with maple/birch).
Martin Strand III
New Member
Too soon, everyone will have to say,
"I miss the smell of clean fresh air."
Aye,
Marty
Grandma used to say,
"A man is not measured
by what he has."
"I miss the smell of clean fresh air."
Aye,
Marty
Grandma used to say,
"A man is not measured
by what he has."
Jack22
New Member
Marty S said:
I am more than OK with breathing a little bit of "poison". In fact if it smells like wood smoke I love breathing it in small doses just like I enjoy doing other things that are bad for you like eating steak and drinking too much whiskey and smoking too many cigars. I love enjoying life. Some of the things that make life enjoyable are not so great for you. Unless smelling a little wood smoke is going to take many years off my life than I am fine with it.
For those of you who miss the smell... Burn this for a few hours...
http://www.yankeecandle.com/fragrance/fireside
If you want a creosote candle I can come up with one....
http://www.yankeecandle.com/fragrance/fireside
If you want a creosote candle I can come up with one....
Martin Strand III
New Member
Jack22 said:
That's fine.
The thing is, you just don't know until it's over.
Aye,
Marty
Grandma used to say, "The devil's in the details."
HighHeat22
Member
Martin Strand III
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HighHeat22 said:
Those words contain the point of my remarks.
The "best way" to increase one's odds of avoiding an earlier demise,
or unpleasant remaining journey, is to avoid the things one "knows"
are harmful.
Then, one still doesn't know.
Aye,
Marty
Grandma used to say,
"Sometimes, less is more."
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