New Jotul - F 55

KennyK said:

Bretonburner said:

KennyK,
Do you know what the size of the new firebox is ? Is it different than the older version ?

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If you watch the video that starts this strand (which is really cool!) "Tim, the wood stove guy" says that the firebox is "almost 3 cubic feet."

Kenny

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Tim is my Jotul Rep. This F55 is basically a Rangely w/out the top lod, baffle moved upwards to allow for more fiebox room.

I'm not sure on the clearances,i just meant the 50 has that close clearance as well.

I wonder what the result would be if I lined my ash pan with fire brick...Might be time for an experiment.

Wouldn't a pan of ash be the same,or sand? Just askin.

Bub381 said:

Wouldn't a pan of ash be the same,or sand? Just askin.

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Not sure...maybe the bricks would hold heat better, but who knows? Just wondering if that attributes at all to the longer burn time he is stating.

We have put a steel plate ,which we just happened to have, on top of the grate in the firebox. It has made a big difference in how the stove burns. When we get too much ash, we just shovel it out. Nothing goes into the ash pan.

mikepinto65 said:

I wonder what the result would be if I lined my ash pan with fire brick...Might be time for an experiment.

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Not to hijack the thread - but I had the same thought about lining the ashpan of my Castine ashpan with firebricks based on what I saw on the video. My original thread did not get any legs...

Do you guys/gals think this would add any value?

I just started leaving my ashpan full and shoveling ash when i need to out of the firebox,should've listened.I'll take this anyday over emptying the ashpan and then scraping and cleaning the ash compartment beacause of the overflow that is scraped off from pulling the ashpan.

KennyK said:

Okay folks, this may cause a stir...

I just got word from a Jotul deal that I've been talking with... price on the F55: $2199. Again, this is word from a Massachusetts Jotul dealer, I'm just the messenger!

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If that is the price it ends up being then I think they missed the mark by several hundred dollars, $2199 is exactly what I paid for my Rangeley w/ cast sides.

Also noticed this: "optional flue collar heat shield"

BeGreen said:

barnuba said:

mikepinto65 said:

I wonder what the result would be if I lined my ash pan with fire brick...Might be time for an experiment.

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Not to hijack the thread - but I had the same thought about lining the ashpan of my Castine ashpan with firebricks based on what I saw on the video. My original thread did not get any legs...

Do you guys/gals think this would add any value?

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Firebrick is cheap, so no harm in trying. But with a good layer of ash insulating on top I'm not sure how much difference you would notice. Let us know.

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Is the ash grate removable? You may be able to get a little more fire box volume by replacing the grate with fire bricks. I thought about doing this with my Keystone, it would give me about a 3" deeper fire box.

Todd said:

Is the ash grate removable? You may be able to get a little more fire box volume by replacing the grate with fire bricks. I thought about doing this with my Keystone, it would give me about a 3" deeper fire box.

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I dont believe it is no.

Todd said:

BeGreen said:

barnuba said:

mikepinto65 said:

I wonder what the result would be if I lined my ash pan with fire brick...Might be time for an experiment.

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Not to hijack the thread - but I had the same thought about lining the ashpan of my Castine ashpan with firebricks based on what I saw on the video. My original thread did not get any legs...

Do you guys/gals think this would add any value?

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Firebrick is cheap, so no harm in trying. But with a good layer of ash insulating on top I'm not sure how much difference you would notice. Let us know.

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Is the ash grate removable? You may be able to get a little more fire box volume by replacing the grate with fire bricks. I thought about doing this with my Keystone, it would give me about a 3" deeper fire box.

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So you would be using ashpan floor as the firebox floor? Not sure that's a good idea, it's not really designed for that. You may never have a problem, it just seems like 3" wouldn't be worth the risk of causing damage to the stove.

webby3650 said:

Todd said:

BeGreen said:

barnuba said:

mikepinto65 said:

I wonder what the result would be if I lined my ash pan with fire brick...Might be time for an experiment.

Click to expand...

Not to hijack the thread - but I had the same thought about lining the ashpan of my Castine ashpan with firebricks based on what I saw on the video. My original thread did not get any legs...

Do you guys/gals think this would add any value?

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Firebrick is cheap, so no harm in trying. But with a good layer of ash insulating on top I'm not sure how much difference you would notice. Let us know.

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Is the ash grate removable? You may be able to get a little more fire box volume by replacing the grate with fire bricks. I thought about doing this with my Keystone, it would give me about a 3" deeper fire box.

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So you would be using ashpan floor as the firebox floor? Not sure that's a good idea, it's not really designed for that. You may never have a problem, it just seems like 3" wouldn't be worth the risk of causing damage to the stove.

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Don't want to high jack so I started a new thread.
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/forums/viewthread/88543/

$2210.36 with cast sides.Just looked at the slip.To take out the grate it would include a layer of fire brick to gain those 3"s and that would be nice but don't sound good.

Consider yourselves lucky in the States.
We paid $2,730 with cast sides here in Nova Scotia Canada.

This Jotul rangeley F55 is actually the stove I really first wanted. Just a simple high quality welded black steel box, with a good air regulator, and rear vent. I went ahead and bought last year the cast sides F50. Paid $2150 bottom line for it, included tax. Now the F55 is about that same cost, with no ash pan (-$100?), no baffle plate arrangement with outside handle mechanism (-$100?). No ash grate (-$50?), but I'm going to do as recommended and find a plate to place over my grate, and fill my ash pan with sand. The F55 has no stainless steel cook top with grease channel (-$50?). So all in all I'm happy. The 3.0cuft firebox would be nice, but those are the trade offs. It was mentioned that the top load feature aids with flue cleaning, as well as getting a good draft going with some newspaper. I would think that this basic F55 would have come in at a cost of around $1800-$1850. But with inflation, steel cost, etc looks like it's about the same cost as last years F50. So has anyone priced the 2012 F50 from Jotul? So we can compare it's cost to the 2012 F55? The F50 had to have gone up several hundred dollars.

Thanks to all who made such great contributing posts, and web links. I had heard about the F55 last year also.

The front handle, with improvement, is still kind of a mess. Don't know why Jotul just didn't angle the "improved" handle away from the firebox at a 45 degree angle.

Best Regards,

IH3444

I think you were quite generous on the price of the deductions and as of the handle,my thoughts exactly.I wouldn't give up what i have knowing i'd get so little back,i didn't realize till now.Unbelievable.Thanks for the info.1 last thing,if you fill your ashpan with sand you wont need a plate over your grate because the sand will be level with the grate.I know this from leaving my ashpan full and just cleaning the firebox.

Found this ad on web for F50. Must be for the steel sides.
http://www.survivalproducts.com/products/Jotul-F50-TL-Rangeley.html

$100 more for the cast.

I realize this thread is a few years old now. I'm getting priced $2,650 in Michigan (Sept, 2017) for a F55. Anyone have any recent prices paid for a f55 for a price check? Thanks.

sutphenj said:

I realize this thread is a few years old now. I'm getting priced $2,650 in Michigan (Sept, 2017) for a F55. Anyone have any recent prices paid for a f55 for a price check? Thanks.

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That's about what I was quoted as well. I hope it can heat 2100 sq. Ft.