Uh Oh...Wood is Wetter Than I Thought......Advice?

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oldspark said:
fire_man said:
CTYank said:
You've no doubt heard "don't cover the stacks." IMHO that's pure nonsense- a folded or twice-folded tarp on the top will divert most of the water to the ground. With a summer/fall like we just had, otherwise I'd have had a fungus-farm. Much of that covered wood is now around 15% MC, and dries much more near the stove once buzzed in half to fit my stove.

Absolutely this is true! Especially don't leave those stacks uncovered if you are 3 years ahead and expect your wood to last.

Simple equation:

WOOD + H2O + Time = ROT
Ive got 3 year old Oak that has never been covered and it aint rotten, the way it rots is if the wood does not dry out after it is rained on. Single rows and the wood dries out quickly after a rain.

Try that with Pine or Cottonwood and please report back in three years.
 
fire_man said:
oldspark said:
fire_man said:
CTYank said:
You've no doubt heard "don't cover the stacks." IMHO that's pure nonsense- a folded or twice-folded tarp on the top will divert most of the water to the ground. With a summer/fall like we just had, otherwise I'd have had a fungus-farm. Much of that covered wood is now around 15% MC, and dries much more near the stove once buzzed in half to fit my stove.

Absolutely this is true! Especially don't leave those stacks uncovered if you are 3 years ahead and expect your wood to last.

Simple equation:

WOOD + H2O + Time = ROT
Ive got 3 year old Oak that has never been covered and it aint rotten, the way it rots is if the wood does not dry out after it is rained on. Single rows and the wood dries out quickly after a rain.

Try that with Pine or Cottonwood and please report back in three years.
Ive seen 2 X's lay out for longer than that with out being rotten. I had a unpainted wood fence around a cattle yard for a lot longer than 3 years and it did not rot.
 
eclecticcottage said:
weatherguy said:
I just wanted to add that tractor supply has the large bio bricks on sale for $2.00, you get 3 large bricks per pack, if you threw one of the bricks in while your burning it may help out.

Have you seen these at your TSC before? I've been haunting ours just in case they got more of the regular 8 pack/packs in and haven't seen hide nor hair of any kind of ecobrick. One TSC nearby did tell me before Christmas they were expecting some type of substitute in for the Ecobricks but didn't know what it was or when it was coming.

No first time, I saw the $2.99 sign so I told the cashier to charge me for 4 packs and Id pick them up on my to my truck(they keep them in front at my local store), I was surprised when I picked up a pack and only saw 3 big bricks. These must be the substitute.
 
oldspark said:
fire_man said:
oldspark said:
fire_man said:
CTYank said:
You've no doubt heard "don't cover the stacks." IMHO that's pure nonsense- a folded or twice-folded tarp on the top will divert most of the water to the ground. With a summer/fall like we just had, otherwise I'd have had a fungus-farm. Much of that covered wood is now around 15% MC, and dries much more near the stove once buzzed in half to fit my stove.

Absolutely this is true! Especially don't leave those stacks uncovered if you are 3 years ahead and expect your wood to last.

Simple equation:

WOOD + H2O + Time = ROT
Ive got 3 year old Oak that has never been covered and it aint rotten, the way it rots is if the wood does not dry out after it is rained on. Single rows and the wood dries out quickly after a rain.

Try that with Pine or Cottonwood and please report back in three years.
Ive seen 2 X's lay out for longer than that with out being rotten. I had a unpainted wood fence around a cattle yard for a lot longer than 3 years and it did not rot.

I have some pool yard fence took it down about 3 years ago it ant rotted.
 
Come up the weekend and trade me for some dry wood. I do not know what you drive but I would trade you load for load. PM me if interested. I am in southern NH
 
fsr4538 said:
Come up the weekend and trade me for some dry wood. I do not know what you drive but I would trade you load for load. PM me if interested. I am in southern NH

Kudos to you man. It is great to see when members step up to help others out! Lots of talk on here, but very few back it up with action.
Right on man!
 
Hogwildz said:
fsr4538 said:
Come up the weekend and trade me for some dry wood. I do not know what you drive but I would trade you load for load. PM me if interested. I am in southern NH

Kudos to you man. It is great to see when members step up to help others out! Lots of talk on here, but very few back it up with action.
Right on man!

+1 !!
 
Just wanted to mention another huge benefit of storing a firebox-load (or two) of wood inside is that the wood is up to temperature as well as drier. Dumping an armload of 10 degree wood really knocks the stove temps for a loop.
Plus it is really nice to have a re-load right there at 2am when it's -15 out...
 
Ain't no reloading at 2am here. To hell with that.
 
Not everyone can live near a Nuke plant...
It gets cold at night and one must respond.
 
oldspark said:
Hogwildz said:
Ain't no reloading at 2am here. To hell with that.
+1 :lol:
ho

Hah, no heck.

My POS Buck holds up on a fill up for about 6hrs, and it is a wood eating machine!

On the moisture content subject, I use that manufactured rubber matting, have a pallet shop about two miles down the road that will give me all I want. Keep the pallets off the ground and tarping, even in multiple rows, it gets plenty dry. I could build a pallet fort they trash so many pallets (burn them in a huge pit actually!) And like many of these posters, it has been very, very wet in TN this year. Actually, flood watches out tonight!

However, I did cut some dingy Norway Maple trees down nearby couple years ago. Those trees hold moisture for a very, very long time. I would not travel to cut one, but that wood has needed almost two years to get the moisture down. Also, I noticed these Norway Maples kill everything within a certain radius. Burn Noway maple, BURN!
 
Hogwildz said:
Ain't no reloading at 2am here. To hell with that.

Same here . . . I'm too lazy to get up in middle of the night to load the stove . . . stove is loaded up at 9:30 p.m. or so and then reloaded when I wake up at 5 a.m. . . . typically the temps have come down during the night, but usually there are enough coals for an easy reload and the oil boiler hasn't kicked on (I have the thermostats set to kick on at 60 degrees F.)

I also never could figure out the whole "warm your wood before you put it into the firebox" philosophy either . . . I mean I have a woodbox that I put in a day or so wood into every day . . . but not to warm up the wood or drive out any moisture -- it's just there so my wife doesn't have to go outside in the cold to get wood when I'm not home. Personally I have taken wood right off the stack on the porch (unheated) and put it into the firebox with absolutely no issues or changes from taking the wood out of the woodbox.
 
Get yourself a Bailey's Smart Splitter(http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=15720).

With this little baby you can easily split the wood that you already have into really small kindling. The smaller the pieces are the faster and more easily they will burn. And like was said, you can resplit some of your wood and dry it in the stove room or somewhere else much faster.

The key to burning wood less seasoned than you want is to be burning it in way smaller sections.

And one other thing.... You can only burn hot fires. You cannot stop the fire down with green wood. The logs must be heavily charred before you stop it down. And you must be very careful of this if you have an old non-epa certified stove because the old ones could be made to smolder--- a bad thing even with dry wood, and a very bad thing with wet wood. NEW EPA stoves won't smolder, they can't be closed down far enough. With the new ones after using it a very short time, you will know at what level the secondary burning stops(just look up at the top of the fire box). Don't reduce your draft below that level. The secondary burning is what keeps the creosote out for your chimney.
 
fire_man said:
CTYank said:
..... Especially don't leave those stacks uncovered if you are 3 years ahead and expect your wood to last.

I use about 3-4 cords a year. I don't have a clue where I could store 12 cords of wood. Thats a lot size of 120 feet long x 4 feet x 4 feet.
 
Well, 96ft, but no one is saying you can't stack it to 6ft high. That would bring it down to 64ft if 4ft wide.
 
fsr4538 said:
Come up the weekend and trade me for some dry wood. I do not know what you drive but I would trade you load for load. PM me if interested. I am in southern NH

What a cool gesture, Sir. :coolsmile:


spaceman
 
BeGreen said:
Well, 96ft, but no one is saying you can't stack it to 6ft high. That would bring it down to 64ft if 4ft wide.

ROTFLMAO!!! Yeah I could stack it 6 feet high and 16 feet wide x 16 feet long = 1598 cu ft which is about 12 cords. But that doesn't include the wood for this year hich is an additional 6 feet high by 18 inches by 16 feet.

Of course that would assume that I actually have $5000 sitting around to buy this wood to begin with.
 
Just like the title says...my wood is too wet and I'm looking for advice. (Please don't say go buy dry wood!) We're hard up on cash with the newborn in the house and we were hoping to use the wood to save money!

A little history.... I bought 3 cords of "seasoned" wood in early October. I bought a moisture meter to see where it was at and found it to be in the mid 20's!!! So much for seasoned wood! I put a cord in the basement with the dehumidifier running like mad and a bunch of fans blowing at the wood. I just finished burning this stuff a week ago and it was actually burning pretty good!

This past week I've been burning from the two cords stacked next to by house (full sun). I've been having a hard time regulating the temp and I've been having to run it with the air open more than normal. I thought it was the weather but it was really cold a few days ago and it still didn't burn well.

Today I took a moisture reading and nearly fell on the floor! A small split was in the low-mid 20's when split and a large one was near 30 in the middle! CRAP! Well this is the wood I've got, so now what? I've got some cut up pallets that I've been mixing in but it hasn't been helping much.

What does a guy do with crappy wood?

BTW...its an Englander 30 with 5ft of double wall stove pipe and 17ft of double wall chimney.

I understand that this is a very old thread, but figured I'd post in the event that anyone else has been having this issue.

I work with wood every day, sell it, mill it, and build with it.

Split the wood until it's small enough to fit in an oven, or other closed heating device, keep it off the element with a pan and leave it in there for 2-3 hours, burping the oven every 30-45 minutes.

This is literally what the modern day kiln (what we use to dry large amounts of wood in short timeframes) amounts to. They are large convection ovens with timers to release steam; nothing more.

Understand that the larger and thicker the wood, the more time it will need. Also remember that nothing should ever be left running unattended in an oven. I've seen people try this hundreds of different ways, but when it comes to small enough pieces this is the most cost-effective and expedient method of drying wood for any purpose.

Just because it's wet doesn't mean it's crap!

Hope this helps someone.
 
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