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alltherage

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Jan 12, 2012
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chautauqua County, NY
Hi all,
I've been lurking...ALOT lol

I'm looking to get a second pellet stove for the basement (not looking to heat the upstairs from the basement cuz i've read the horror stories). I currently have a summers heat 55-shp10 so i'm not completely inept. I bought that last year and have learned how to maintain it. That stove is not in the basement.
The house is a 1560 square foot modular ranch. The basement is superior wall with the 1" polystyrene insulation along the sides. It hasn't been drywalled yet. The ceiling of the basement is fully insulated.
We plan to finish it off little by little. We've already established a great mancave (she loves it) with a 16' bar, futon, tv, desk etc. The plan is to put the stove in that area and then eventually build a stairwell from the top floor down to the basement and frame up walls for bedrooms etc. Currently, there is an attached garage with a stairwell going down to the basement in the mancave area.
Lowe's is currently running the 18 months same as cash and I'm a sucker for it every time. I would like to get another Englander from there in the next couple days.

So here are my questions:
1. Being that the basement is 1560 sq. feet as well, would another 25-pdvc/55shp10 suffice? Should we go bigger, especially considering we'll be building some walls in the long run? Will the 1" Dow insulation along the sides of the basement hamper the heating ability that much (it's only R-5), or is the ceiling most important in this case?. Should we do roll insulation as well before we drywall? in the winter, it gets no lower than 40 degrees down there as its mainly underground.
2. What's the most reliable, value added Englander out there? I find myself looking at the 10-cpm, 25-EP, and 25-PAH. Is there a standout stove in the Englander lineup? I'm really not interested in the 25-PDV. I suppose I'm most intrigued by the 25-EP vs. 25-PAH.
3. Can I vent it out just above the foundation, where the wooden band board goes around the house. I'm pretty sure it's called OSB board. It would put me 3' above ground level at least (i've researched the venting issues on here quite a bit) and it would exit just above where the vinyl siding starts on the bottom. I'm not interested in going through the foundation...that's sketchy stuff lol.
4. Should I scrap Englander for the second stove and go with the CAB50 heatilator!! lol...nice little stove. I've had good luck with Englander though and parts are readily available and Mike H. is a wonderful resource. I like our Englander alot, as long as I screen out the fines from the American Wood Fibers....had some major auger issues when i didn't screen.

anyway, done rambling. I will take any ideas or advice you can give. This is a great place for good info.

Thanks, Ryan
 
If you're looking for something that looks a little nicer for the "mancave" area, and also is the newer single auger/drop tube design, go with the 25-EP. You can get one from AM/FM Stoves new, or a refurbished (by Mike H. & the Tech boys) for a lot less $$....that where I got mine.....great people to do business with, and free shipping. BUT, no "the 18 months same as cash" deal.

Here's the refurb unit:

www.amfmenergy.com/55trpep--epa-certified-pellet-stove--2000552000.html
 
Any one of the new generation (top feed Englanders) stoves would be a good fit. High BTU's and carry some lookers (CPM and EP). As imacman stated, you can get a nice Re-furb unit w/ full factory warranty.

But.... The Heatilator line-up is pretty nice too.. The only reason I would pick the Englander over the Heatilator, is the option to run in On/Off or Hi/Low.. Otherwise they are both great units at great prices.

As long as you use a thimble and follow the Manufacturers instructions (stove and vent) you can run the vent iut if the sill of your home (wooden part).

Welcome to the Club...
 
imacman said:
If you're looking for something that looks a little nicer for the "mancave" area, and also is the newer single auger/drop tube design, go with the 25-EP. You can get one from AM/FM Stoves new, or a refurbished (by Mike H. & the Tech boys) for a lot less $$....that where I got mine.....great people to do business with, and free shipping. BUT, no "the 18 months same as cash" deal.

Here's the refurb unit:

www.amfmenergy.com/55trpep--epa-certified-pellet-stove--2000552000.html

Nice but where would you vent it?
 
One benefit to having two of the same stoves is the ability to rob parts when stuck in a jam.
 
Why not just buy another 55-shp10?

You are already familiar with the stove and maintenance procedures...No new learning curve!

If your main stove dies, you can cannibalize from the man cave stove.

It just makes sense to me!

Bill
 
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