Harman pellet comsumption???

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Mongo

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Jan 4, 2010
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Accentra insert, 3 years old
Set to 72 degree's on room temp, feed rate = 3-1/2
Under 1800 sq' ranch house

New circuit board, new ESP probe. Flue cleaned 3 weeks ago, shut down every week for cleaning of heat exchanger as well as tubes on left and right side and below burn pot.

Drop in a 40lb bag of New England Hardwood pellets and by morning the hopper is almost empty, fill up the hopper and go to work and when I get home the hopper is once again almost empty. What in the world is wrong with this stove for me to be going thru 80-100 lbs of pellets in less then 24 hours.


HELP!
 
That doesn't seem out of the ordinary for this weather. I have a P68 and use the same amount.

Tom C.
 
I go through about 2 bags every 30-36 hours... it doesn't seem like allot for this time of year. I have to agree with the above poster.
 
Seems a little high to me, I have an Accentra insert running on about the same settings and am keeping down stairs 71/72 & upstairs 67/68 (about 2k sqft total). I ran at a bag a day in Dec and 1.35 bags a day (41 bags in 31 days) in Jan.

Is the temp probe still under the stove? I know before I moved mine it seemed to run & burn more than needed.
 
Sounds a little high to me, but you failed to say what the outside temp. is. If it is COLD where you are, you will burn more. I'm running a little less than a bag a day with my advance. Check the temp. probe so it reads actual room temp.
 
I burned 46 in January but probably 6 of those were in a second stove. I run my stove strictly in stove mode. For me it depends on if the sun is out. If it is, I seem to use less than a bag a day or just a little more as long as it is above 15. Today it snowy and in the high teens and I'm going to use 2 bags of Greene Team.
 
Mongo said:
Accentra insert, 3 years old
Set to 72 degree's on room temp, feed rate = 3-1/2
Under 1800 sq' ranch house

New circuit board, new ESP probe. Flue cleaned 3 weeks ago, shut down every week for cleaning of heat exchanger as well as tubes on left and right side and below burn pot.

Drop in a 40lb bag of New England Hardwood pellets and by morning the hopper is almost empty, fill up the hopper and go to work and when I get home the hopper is once again almost empty. What in the world is wrong with this stove for me to be going thru 80-100 lbs of pellets in less then 24 hours.


HELP!

Where are you located?
How well is your house insulated?
How high is the temperature probe off the floor?
Have you tried turning the feed to 3?
I'm using about the same amount in my P61A (more BTUs)
for a smaller house (1450 sf)...
I think you're right where you should be....
 
Harman Advance on room temp. Set at 70 deg. Outside air temp today was 42 deg.. Started the stove at 6:30 this morning and shut It down at 9:00 P.M. loaded In 1 full bag
of pellets 40 lbs .So in 15 hours I burned 40 lbs approximately at 40 deg. outside with light breeze.. Your results may vary with outside conditions and how tight your home Is
 
I have a Harman Accentra, live in Maine, and am trying to heat most of my house with the stove. I'm probably burning 1.5 bags a day (Cubex) but of course it depends on the weather. Lately it's been very cold, below freezing throughout the day and night. So coupled with heat loss in my home, I end up burning more during these periods.
 
New Hampshire Jim said:
Harman Advance on room temp. Set at 70 deg. Outside air temp today was 42 deg.. Started the stove at 6:30 this morning and shut It down at 9:00 P.M. loaded In 1 full bag
of pellets 40 lbs .So in 15 hours I burned 40 lbs approximately at 40 deg. outside with light breeze.. Your results may vary with outside conditions and how tight your home Is

Great State of Tennessee here.

Turned 'stat down to 60 when left for work yesterday. Day's temp was 65. Didn't burn at all (of course). Came home and house temp was 64. Let it run to get house to 70 then off she went. It's 56 at 0724 central today so probably same stove procedure today.

So glad I'm not up North with you guys. I was planting flowers in the yard yesterday and sweating.
 
saladdin said:
I was planting flowers in the yard yesterday and sweating.

No need to rub it in!! Ha Ha

Wish it was 65 here, might have been 30.

Tom C.
 
my harman sits cold. its basically a back up stove because my cumberland uses far less pellets and throws way more heat. im not that impressed with harman performance for the price. no doubt its very well made but its a pellet hog.
 
Additional info -

It's been exactly 70 days since my Harman Accentra insert was installed and I've burned 90 bags.

So I've averaged 1.29 bags a day.

I purchased 2 tons of Cubex @ $289/ton ($578)
So @$5.78 a bag, I'm spending $7.46 a day to heat about 85% of my home.

The numbers look good to me...
 
DAKSY said:
Mongo said:
Accentra insert, 3 years old
Set to 72 degree's on room temp, feed rate = 3-1/2
Under 1800 sq' ranch house

New circuit board, new ESP probe. Flue cleaned 3 weeks ago, shut down every week for cleaning of heat exchanger as well as tubes on left and right side and below burn pot.

Drop in a 40lb bag of New England Hardwood pellets and by morning the hopper is almost empty, fill up the hopper and go to work and when I get home the hopper is once again almost empty. What in the world is wrong with this stove for me to be going thru 80-100 lbs of pellets in less then 24 hours.


HELP!

Where are you located?
How well is your house insulated?
How high is the temperature probe off the floor?
Have you tried turning the feed to 3?
I'm using about the same amount in my P61A (more BTUs)
for a smaller house (1450 sf)...
I think you're right where you should be....


House is located in Central Mass, attic has 2 layers of insulation, walls are insulated.
Temp probe is what 3" above the floor
Feed rate is sitting at 3.5 right now, I will try turning it down to 3
 
greg13 said:
Sounds a little high to me, but you failed to say what the outside temp. is. If it is COLD where you are, you will burn more. I'm running a little less than a bag a day with my advance. Check the temp. probe so it reads actual room temp.

This has been a very mild winter, there have only been a handful of frigid nights The other night is was in the mid 30's and I still burned a full hopper full of pellets overnight.
 
Mongo said:
greg13 said:
Sounds a little high to me, but you failed to say what the outside temp. is. If it is COLD where you are, you will burn more. I'm running a little less than a bag a day with my advance. Check the temp. probe so it reads actual room temp.

This has been a very mild winter, there have only been a handful of frigid nights The other night is was in the mid 30's and I still burned a full hopper full of pellets overnight.

remember too, that a lot of how much you burn isn't about actual outside temperature, but about other factors such as air circulation/convection and heat loss in your home.
 
In room temp the stove is doing what it has to to keep it at the temp you set the unit at. Turn down the feed rate but you will also be turning down the BTUs.

Eric
 
Mongo said:
Accentra insert, 3 years old
Set to 72 degree's on room temp, feed rate = 3-1/2
Under 1800 sq' ranch house

New circuit board, new ESP probe. Flue cleaned 3 weeks ago, shut down every week for cleaning of heat exchanger as well as tubes on left and right side and below burn pot.

Drop in a 40lb bag of New England Hardwood pellets and by morning the hopper is almost empty, fill up the hopper and go to work and when I get home the hopper is once again almost empty. What in the world is wrong with this stove for me to be going thru 80-100 lbs of pellets in less then 24 hours.


HELP!

Also check your DIP switch settings. There is a paper that came with the board that you can use.

Eric
 
South of Boston here with a P35i. I have my probe up on a mantle, my stove is set to room temperate so that the level (I have a front to back split that has been modified by taking the center bedroom and making 1/2 of it a hallway leading to a master bedroom of 18x14 and a second bedroom of 16x12) where my stove is stays about 73 degrees, my upstairs rooms are about 75, and my back rooms down a hallway are 69. I am using less than a bag a day with this warmer weather and when it was colder the most I used was a bag and a half in 24hrs.
 
The numbers dont look too far out. Had mine for three years. Average about one and three quarters bags in 24 hrs. It does depend on how cold it is outside.
Probably why I have only used 37 bags of Green supreme in January. room Temp set at 72-75, feed rate at 3.
Been very comfy.
Of course been able to shut it off a few days. Its been pretty nice tis wintso far.
 
I keep mine at a feed rate of 4 (otherwise the ash barrier becomes too large - the active flame/embers end up about 2 inches from the edge with a wall of ash in between). I'd consider running it at a lower feed rate, but how do you balance temp with feed rate (if consumption isn't a concern). Additionally, I run mine on room temp, but usually have it at 75 degrees and the fan on high (and it never really reaches 75 in that room - basement level in a trilevel - so it's open the the main floor which will reach 75, although the stove room doesn't)
 
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Mongo said:
Accentra insert, 3 years old
Set to 72 degree's on room temp, feed rate = 3-1/2
Under 1800 sq' ranch house

New circuit board, new ESP probe. Flue cleaned 3 weeks ago, shut down every week for cleaning of heat exchanger as well as tubes on left and right side and below burn pot.

Drop in a 40lb bag of New England Hardwood pellets and by morning the hopper is almost empty, fill up the hopper and go to work and when I get home the hopper is once again almost empty. What in the world is wrong with this stove for me to be going thru 80-100 lbs of pellets in less then 24 hours.


HELP!

Also check your DIP switch settings. There is a paper that came with the board that you can use.

Eric


Eric,

The circuit board was set where I bought the board. I double checked the settings when I got home and the DIP's are correct.
 
Try putting the temp probe a few feet up.
 
Mongo said:
Accentra insert, 3 years old
Set to 72 degree's on room temp, feed rate = 3-1/2
Under 1800 sq' ranch house

New circuit board, new ESP probe. Flue cleaned 3 weeks ago, shut down every week for cleaning of heat exchanger as well as tubes on left and right side and below burn pot.

Drop in a 40lb bag of New England Hardwood pellets and by morning the hopper is almost empty, fill up the hopper and go to work and when I get home the hopper is once again almost empty. What in the world is wrong with this stove for me to be going thru 80-100 lbs of pellets in less then 24 hours.


HELP!

So here's a question for you - How is the comfort of you home through this? Too hot, just right, cooler than normal?

If the temp is just right and you've eliminated all the variables associated with the stove, then it could simply be the pellets.

If your stove was running efficiently (not dirty) and your room temp is not too hot (meaning a control system is out of whack for your settings) there's no magical way for the heat to sneak up the flue and not into the room. The 680k per 80 pounds (or so) BTU's have to be going somewhere... Sure you don't have a window open and not know it. :)
 
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