sante fe auger motor problem

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2005SantFe

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Jan 17, 2012
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Central PA
I posted on here before about my problem. Originally, the auger motor would not start at start up. If I tapped on it or closed the hopper lid hard, the motor would start and continue working until shut down. Then the problem would repeat. I added a new capacitor thinking that would give the motor the 'kick' it needed to start. That didnt help. From suggestions in this forum, I checked the vacuum hose, its clear. Checked wire quick connects. Checked the motor operation with a lamp cord, seemed to be ok, but at one point the motor reversed direction. Set screw had loosened up, re-tightened. Reassembled everything but now I cannot get the motor to start at all. I am leaning towards getting a new motor, but hate to spend the money on one if that is not the problem.

On another note, I cannot for the life of me understand why this has a reversing motor. Does the auger ever call for a reversing direction, maybe to unjam? I didnt think this was the case, but if not, why did they put this motor in (and even wire it that way). Just curious.
 
Sounds like a bad motor and yes they should reverse if jammed.

Eric


2005SantFe said:
I posted on here before about my problem. Originally, the auger motor would not start at start up. If I tapped on it or closed the hopper lid hard, the motor would start and continue working until shut down. Then the problem would repeat. I added a new capacitor thinking that would give the motor the 'kick' it needed to start. That didnt help. From suggestions in this forum, I checked the vacuum hose, its clear. Checked wire quick connects. Checked the motor operation with a lamp cord, seemed to be ok, but at one point the motor reversed direction. Set screw had loosened up, re-tightened. Reassembled everything but now I cannot get the motor to start at all. I am leaning towards getting a new motor, but hate to spend the money on one if that is not the problem.

On another note, I cannot for the life of me understand why this has a reversing motor. Does the auger ever call for a reversing direction, maybe to unjam? I didnt think this was the case, but if not, why did they put this motor in (and even wire it that way). Just curious.
 
Sounds like either a bad motor or capacitor, your new capacitor may be bad.
 
I heard on one post about a vacuum switch problem in a certain year time frame. This could be the problem also. I think it was replaced even though the stove was out of warranty if my memory serves me correctly.
 
Countryboymo said:
I heard on one post about a vacuum switch problem in a certain year time frame. This could be the problem also. I think it was replaced even though the stove was out of warranty if my memory serves me correctly.

negative pressure switches tend to be bad or good. no in the middle.

Eric
 
If its Bad, its Bad. Like Eric said, its not a "in the Middle" thing.

The Quads need a factory replacement, if I recall correctly. I have yet to find an aftermarket auger.

If it was failing before and the vacuum line is clear, then its prob toast.
 
thanks everyone. I think I am going to have to try a new motor at this point. I am going to take it out again and see if it will work at all out of the stove (it did, until I took it out to test it last time).
 
I just removed motor and auger. Did lamp cord test again. when switching on and off, motor is reversing every once in a while, not each time though. This happens whether power is connected to the red or to the black wire.
 
Are you sure the capacitor you got is right?

If its reversing like that, then It sounds like it needs a capacitor??
 
In most instances that is correct that a vacuum switch is either bad or its good like many automotive sensors. I could have sworn the quad castile and sante fe models had a rare intermittent issue.
 
The capacitor I got was part number 230-2150. I tested the motor without the capacitor harness last time. Just tested it with the capacitor harness, does not run at all. So now I know I have a bad capacitor. Motor still will not work once back in the stove (without the cap harness). If it works out of the stove, not sure why it wont work in the stove. Getting more confused.
 
I blew out the vacuum switch with a can of Blow Off, tried again with no results. Tapped on feed motor with backside of screw driver several times and got it to start. This of course is without the capacitor harness. I will have to get that exchanged next week.
 
2005SantFe said:
I blew out the vacuum switch with a can of Blow Off, tried again with no results. Tapped on feed motor with backside of screw driver several times and got it to start. This of course is without the capacitor harness. I will have to get that exchanged next week.

Called my dealer this morning. He suggested bypassing the vacuum switch to see if the feed motor would start on its own (which it did). He said if it did, I had a vacuum or pressure problem. Either plugged up vacuum line (which I have checked) or a bad seal somewhere that was drawing air in. I tore the stove completely apart and cleaned everything like I would in the summer time. So far, that has seemed to do the trick. I have a frayed seal around the door glass....wondering about that not sealing everytime. Will have to keep an eye on that.
 
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