St. Croix Hastings room / convection fan noise

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The Other One

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Jan 28, 2012
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This is the noise that the room / convection fan Is making on my St. Croix Hastings pellet stove. I am looking for feedback from the forum on hearth.com as to a fix without replacing the whole unit. This started after I did a thorough cleaning. Everything (and I mean everything) except the "leaf blower trick" and removing this fan. I actually thought that it was the combustion fan making the noise at first since I disassembled it to clean it. The only thing I did to this fan was run my shop vac next to the grates to clear some dust off. After I realized the this fan was the issue, I removed it and totally cleaned it with brushes, compressed air and a shop vac. I don't think the noise is as loud as it was before I did it. This video shows the noise after the unit was removed and cleaned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mg2QUcYMwI&feature=youtu.be
 
I know on my prescott there's a bearing on either side of the motor, when I remove it for cleaning I put a couple of drops 3 in 1 oil (the one in the blue can) as preventive maintance.They are sealed bearings, but I figure some of the oil will work it's way in.I've been doing this since I bought the stove 4 years ago and haven't had a issue yet (knock on wood).The other thing I would look at is the squirl cages, maybe one is rubbing on the outter metal housing.
 
Im not familiar with your stove but even with my P43 when its dirty it makes all kinds of noises in the fan and the auger. A good cleaning and bam back to normal.
 
Trust me. It is clean. I have now done all except, "leaf blower" trick. It is possible that the cartridge blades are rubbing. They could have moved from the suction of the shop vac. I will look into that. I am also going to pick up some high temp anti-seize tomorrow and lube where I can with that or penetrating oil. The versa grate is probably due for some anti seize anyway. I was thinking that the versa grate may be making the noise because I may have cleaned the stove too well and removed the anti-sieze. (I checked that though).
 
Oh BTW it will cost you $150 from the dealer to replace the whole unit. They do not just sell the spindle with the sealed bearing on it..oil all you want it will not make a difference!
 
cold front said:
Oh BTW it will cost you $150 from the dealer to replace the whole unit. They do not just sell the spindle with the sealed bearing on it..oil all you want it will not make a difference!

Did you finish replacing your bearing cold front?
 
SmokeyTheBear said:
cold front said:
Oh BTW it will cost you $150 from the dealer to replace the whole unit. They do not just sell the spindle with the sealed bearing on it..oil all you want it will not make a difference!

Did you finish replacing your bearing cold front?

I sent you a private message but the answer is yes and no. I have the bearings on order to fix the old one and I bought a new unit from the dealer...I need heat and the stove is back to normal. Thanks for your help
 
cold front said:
Oh BTW it will cost you $150 from the dealer to replace the whole unit. They do not just sell the spindle with the sealed bearing on it..oil all you want it will not make a difference!
I disagree I've had this stove for four seasons burning between 3 and 5 ton per season I remove both the combustion and covection motors after every ton burned,clean and lube them, they are still as quiet as the day I bought the stove.
 
The Other One said:
cold front said:

Where are you from in Western NY? I am near Brockport.

I am going to take it apart again tomorrow, oil it and check clearances. It can't hurt. If it still makes noise, I'll live with it a while. Maybe it will quiet down as it gets buildup on it again.

I'm outside of the Bristol/Bloomfield area. You need to get the unit replaced. Yours sounds worse then mine did. You can try to clean it and oil it till your blue in the face..I have already tried that twice it will not make a difference. If you cut these sealed bearing open like I have you will see that they are for one sealed and two packed with thick grease not oil. Even so, oil is not going to fix a scored ball bearing or a broken metal strip inside.

I got my replacement from Avon stove and fireplace in Avon, NY. He had 2 in stock and I took the last one....sorry.
 
Cold front is correct oil will not fix an already worn out bearing,but in my opinion will prolong the life of a good one.
 
The problem is fixed. I couldn't get past that this problem started when I cleaned the combustion fan. It was just bothering me. When I was looking closely at the compartment that holds the convection fan, I noticed that some unpainted metal was showing. If I pulled up on the bottom of the compartment, the unpainted metal would no longer show. So, obviously there must be a way to tighten this up. I remembered that in order to access the combustion fan, I removed the back panel that attaches on the bottom to the compartment that holds the convection fan and up top with two screws that screw in on a 45 degree angle near the hopper. These two screws were the problem. So, I pulled up on the compartment that holds the convection fan so that the panel sat better on theses two screws and then tightened the screws up. No more noise at all. The noise was just vibration. Make sure you do this when you reattach the back panel of this stove! This saved me $170 for a new unit and I would have had the same result if I didn't figure this out.

(I did oil the bearings and checked the clearance of the blades). Thanks for the ideas.
 
I'm glad it was an easy fix for you. My gut tells me its a bad idea to oil sealed bearings, if you actually happen to get the oil inside all you're doing is diluting the grease inside.
 
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