What Is This Tree

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Ralphie Boy

Minister of Fire
Feb 12, 2012
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Rabbit Hash, Kentucky
I keep thinking Ash of some kind but the bark isn't correct for White Ash, too flakey. I've cut many a White Ash trees so I can spot 'em in the dark. So then I was thinking maybe Blue or Green Ash. I'm hung up on the Ash prospect because of the opposite branching that can't be seen too well in the picture. (Remember the "MAD Horse" acronym for tree I.D.)
 

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It looks like a species of hickory, but don't take my word for it, I'm still a rookie in the tree id dept
 
Interesting..... There is a smaller Shagbark right beside it.

Thanks
 
May be elm. Hard for me to tell without a leaf or more pics. Elm will split pretty gnarly because it can be real stringy and, although, the BTU charts don't say so I find it burns hot, hot and leaves very little ash.
 
The bark looks like American Elm, but if you're sure about opposite branching then I dunno.
 
Wood Duck said:
The bark looks like American Elm, but if you're sure about opposite branching then I dunno.

Nope, I can't be positive about the branching. I do see a couple of opposit branches but nothing as bold as seen on most ash trees. You may very well be correct. That's why I came here to ask; so many who know much more than me.

Thanks!!
 
Backwoods said:
It looks like a species of hickory, but don't take my word for it, I'm still a rookie in the tree id dept
+1.....I'm a rookie too.....but I agree with Backwwods
 
Here is another shot of the trunk of the mystery tree.
 

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Beer Belly said:
Backwoods said:
It looks like a species of hickory, but don't take my word for it, I'm still a rookie in the tree id dept
+1.....I'm a rookie too.....but I agree with Backwwods
I'll take a WAG...Shellbark Hickory. Any nuts on the ground? Might be tough with another Hickory next to it...
 
That sure looks alot like a white oak to me.......the second picture you posted seals it. The smaller tree on the left is a shagbark hickory, and the two look nothing alike IMHO....
 
Scotty Overkill said:
That sure looks alot like a white oak to me.......the second picture you posted seals it. The smaller tree on the left is a shagbark hickory, and the two look nothing alike IMHO....

+1
White oak is my "guess"
 
The bark looks a bit like white oak but the branching doesn't look quite typical.
 
billb3 said:
The bark looks a bit like white oak but the branching doesn't look quite typical.
That's kinda what my first though was, but when I saw the second pic, well that really looks like WO.....however, it could POSSIBLY be pignut hickory........the branches would lead you to reason that, but the swelled base and the flaky bark really mimic all the white oak I have seen around here. It's definately not a shagbark........
 
That's sort of a tough one. The bark on the main tree looks like American Elm but the high branches look a little too smooth as the Am. Elm I usually see around here has a little roughness to even the small limbs but I blew the top up and still can't see them really close up. If you can peel a piece of the bark off and the back side is mixed light and dark that is a telltale of American Elm. Red Elm won't have that mixed color. I don't think Hickory and not so sure about Oak but can't rule it out.
 
I thought maybe white oak too but the branches look like a hickory.
 
Regardless it looks like good BTU's and worth cutting. As soon as you cut into it you will know if it is oak by the smell
 
BobUrban said:
Regardless it looks like good BTU's and worth cutting. As soon as you cut into it you will know if it is oak by the smell
in the end, that's all that matters!! :cheese:
 
any dried up leaves under it that would tell u what it is? sometimes mid-winter it is very tough to nail exactly what it is. probably oak, bur elm is also a possibility.art
 
If you look close at the picture of the top of the tree you'll see that there are some opposite branches. That means it is a maple, ash, dogwood, or one of just a couple other opposite leaved trees. Besides ash and maple opposite leaved (and therefore opposite branched) trees include only Catalpas and Buckeyes. It doesn't look twiggy enough to be a maple, so that leaves ash as the most likely choice. I do not know what the bark of a Catalpa or Buckeye would look like, and both of those are rare in most places I have been.
 
Hard Maple!
 
Catalpa ? Are there any long bean looking things on the ground ?
 
woodsmaster said:
Catalpa ? Are there any long bean looking things on the ground ?
Nope, no beans. Not Catalpa, I had a bunch in my yard before I moved here so I know Catalpa. Thanks for your answer.
 
nrford said:
Hard Maple!

The bark does not look correct for ash so I'm beginning to believe you are correct. I'm going back up the hill tomorrow to look for maple leaves.
 
It's not the right bark for Ash or Sugar Maple (or Silver/Red maple for that matter). It's the wrong branch shape for oak. I'm going to second Backwoods on the hickory - I'll go with Bitternut Hickory.
 
DBoon said:
It's not the right bark for Ash or Sugar Maple (or Silver/Red maple for that matter). It's the wrong branch shape for oak. I'm going to second Backwoods on the hickory - I'll go with Bitternut Hickory.

You better look again at the second picture, looks like any number of the 1000's upon 1000's of H. maple trees I have purchased for over 20 years!!
 
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