Lets see your Pot? (burn pot that is)

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Last year this came up and turned out to be a decent thread. Pretty informative.

Its a way to show everyone the inside of different stoves and how they are designed. Also. If your in the market for a new stove and/or always wondered what the inside of a certain model looks like???

My furnace is burning now. So I only have old pics showing it outside the liner. But you can see how it cleans itself. A cast burn plate comes out over the pot and lights the pellets (fire underneath) and then the pusher plate (back of pot) pushes forward and the front of pot (flapper door) opens and ash/clinker gets pushed into the ash pan.

I will post pics within the beast. But they will have to be tomorrow. And unless you already have a pic of your pot. You may have to wait (if you dare show us. ;-P )

So.... What'da ya say??? Lets see them pots......

Quad and Englander to follow. Need room to post other pics.
 

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Quad Classic Bay. Different than the Castile and Santa Fe, by having open sides so the ash drops in the ash pan. The AE is another animal also.

Nothing burns like a Quad!! I must say. Out of my 3 stoves. It definitely has the "coolest" looking burn. Also stays the cleanest with cleaning. Can go quite some time without even pulling the clean-out rod.
 

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Englander pic. Nothing special. It has a much steeper ramp (plate) than new models. But its almost 17 yrs old.
 

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Heres one of them.
 

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Hello

Here is my Quad Classic Bay too!!

1. Big Round Fire Pot just before painting shows trap door in bottom that is operated by a front pull knob!

2. Newly Painted Fire pot in Burn Chamber!

3. Loop Ignitor is glowing Red against the bottom of the Big Fire Pot seen behind front access panel!
 

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First year of burning and have a Cab50. Do you guys actually remove the burn pot from the stove to clean when you "summerize" your stove? Or just clean it while it is attached inside?
 
Here is the pot of the new stove by Paromax, called the Rafael. (all photos of pots after burning and prior to cleaning)

On this stove the fuel is dropped down to the bottom of this "tube" and baked on an ash bed. As the gasses come off the heated pellets, preheated air is injected thru the holes in the sides. I'll post a photo of it burning later as I want it running for the weekend. What you see at the bottom is three augers that are used for ash extraction. Maintaining the ash bed level is critical in the performance. Not too low or you can lose the bed, not too high or you may cover the bottom holes and lose some of the reburn.

As long as I dont change pellets, my settings are perfect. It will heat about 1500 SF of showroom at 2lbs per hour feed rate.
 

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St. Croix Hastings. This has the versa grate system (i'll try to get a photo of it later) Pretty typical burn pot. A tray with holes in it. Pretty stove, not much trouble with it.
 

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Enerzone Euromax. I guess it would be refered to as a bottom feeder. I've tried a few different pellets in it and the stove never let me down. Kinda works like our coal stoker. Pushes the fuel along and when it hits the end to fall off into the ash pan its all burned up. No build up, no speed bump, no drama. Like the Europa, can run for 2 weeks without having to shut it down. To me, looks same as some of the Harmans.
 

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smoke show said:
Interesting. Those augers must get consumed over time?
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They do. If you manage the ash bed they can go for 5-10 years. The trade off of being able to micromanage the extraction rate is well worth it. Depending on the quality of fuel, I can go up to 4 weeks without shutting the stove down. (The other extreme was some switch grass pellets that I needed to have the extraction turned all the way up for and had to still shut the stove down every two days)

Most customers who have bought their stoves from us and who are instructed on how to use them havent had to get new augers and we have been selling them for about 7 years or so.
 
AES Magnum Countryside. Typical burn pot but that stirrer in there is pretty nifty. Keeps things agitated and makes it a very reliable and versatile burner. Some of the other components are lacking IMO but since we are just talking pots, I happen to like this one for being forgiving.
 

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Hearthstone Heritage pellet stove. Not a lot of experience with this one. I've maybe put 1/2 ton thru it. As far as the burn pot goes, never a hitch.
 

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Enerzone Bio 45. Very typical stove. Dump the pellets in and blow air thru the pot. The reason I like to sell them is Enerzone 5 star warranty. Other than that, pretty unremarkable.
 

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Wow.... Thanks for the pics Franks...

That Enerzone Euromax is a stove I am looking at replacing my Classic Bay with. Seems to be a Solid design and burns well. Ive talked forum member Fyrebug (Bert , SBI) about these. He said it just like you did. Burns for weeks without shutting down.

The Hearthstome looks interesting also. Not a very long "drop" to be a Top Feed.

Have a Buddy with the Countryside and a buddy with a Baby Countryside. The agitator in the Countryside makes it a much better choice. Much better burn.

Thanks.
 
Aside from being prettier, I would go with the Euromax over the Heritage. There is also an excellent chance that your Enerzone dealer will be a standup company. Enerzone doesnt just plop their stoves anywhere. Unless you were going to be heating more than 2K SF, I would still lean towards a Europa just because of how quiet it is and the fuel savings.

In regards to noise, the Euromax is much quieter than the Heritage though. I can also fit 3+ bags into the Euromax hopper.
 
As promised, here is the Rafael burn pot operating. It's tough to get a good photo thru the glare of the glass, but you can make out the jets of flame where the combustion air is introduced.
 

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Don2222 said:
Hello

Here is my Quad Classic Bay too!!

1. Big Round Fire Pot just before painting shows trap door in bottom that is operated by a front pull knob!

2. Newly Painted Fire pot in Burn Chamber!

3. Loop Ignitor is glowing Red against the bottom of the Big Fire Pot seen behind front access panel!
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My Mt Vernon pot doesnt really look like that. I'd like to see that burning.
 
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Bosca Spirit 500 burn pot. The first pic is the stove cooling down for its weekly cleaning.
 

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Man, I'm glad I've got a bottom feeding Harman.

Burn pots where ashcan surround your burn pot seems archaic? or not the best way to handle ash. And with an exposed igniter, seems like it would wear quicker as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see more pellet stove companies find alternative methods to feed pellets than a drop system.
 
Harman PC45 burn pot. I leave the agitator and corn end plate in when I burn. Harman does make a pellet end plate that lets the ash fall into the ash pan. The pics are of my stove after 1 week of non-stop burning and never opening the door from Saturday to Saturday.
 

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I don't normally take this out and show it to anyone but if you promise not to let anybody else see, I'll show you. I feel so...dirty. :red:

25-PAH
 

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