Questions on draft requierments for gasifiers

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welderboyjk

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Jan 29, 2009
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South West, Michigan
Curious about gasifiers and for the sake of argument.....
What if one wanted to put one outside in a shed without a chimney or have a very short chimney?
I see that most of the mfgr. sites list draft requirements for their units. Is function/performance hindered without meeting specified requirements?
 
Yes performance would be hurt. Most require 12' - 15' of chiminey.
 
If you use a barometric damper you can maintain the mfg min draft and not hurt the performance.

Rob
 
I would agree that you need to comply with the requirements of the manufacturer.

That was one of the reasons that I picked my boiler, is that it has a very low draft requirement, and I was worried about my chimney height.

Taxidermist, I was under the impression that a barometric damper only helped make sure you didnt have too much draft. I honestly dont know, as I havent ever put one in.
 
Clarkbug said:
I would agree that you need to comply with the requirements of the manufacturer.

That was one of the reasons that I picked my boiler, is that it has a very low draft requirement, and I was worried about my chimney height.

Taxidermist, I was under the impression that a barometric damper only helped make sure you didnt have too much draft. I honestly dont know, as I havent ever put one in.


Yes you are right..... if to much draft use a baro... if not enough add a length of pipe.

In a shed with a short roof as long as you meet the 3' 10' i would think you would be fine. If too much add a baro.

Rob
 
I have my Tarm 40 in an outdoor shed with 9ft of insulated and ~2ft of non insulated 6"dia chimney. The eaves on my shed are only 8 ft, even with only 3 sections of insulated pipe, I have almost 6' above the roof. I originally thought I would not have enough draft, so I left off the chimney cap. Eventually I bought a gauge and measured the draft, I was surprised to find I had way too much. My unit calls for .02 to .05 in water and I was always over .05, sometimes over .1. I put a chimney cap on thinking that would reduce the draft a bit, but it made no difference to a slight increase depending on the wind. I put in a key damper, but having it set in one position would not keep the draft at a stable number during operation. Put in a barometric damper and all is now operating per the requirements. I noticed a slight reduction in flue temperature and perhaps a slight increase in efficiency.

I believe (but don't have any experience to verify) having a longer shiomney will provide a more stable draft. I remember reading another post on this site where someone had too much draft from a short chimney. That prompted me to measure my draft and make to corrections.

Also worth noting, I have very little draft until the boiler is running and the chimney heats up. This is what eventually drove me away from the key damper - I could not set it to a fixed position and walk away for the entire firing cycle.
 
The reason I was asking is because I have built myself an outdoor boiler and while it seems to be working decently it doesn't work quite as well as I'd like it to. I've got to play with my inlet air locations a little bit more but..... the darn thing smokes a little more than I'd like it to. Nowhere as good as my Lopi endeavor I've got in the basement.
The reason for the OWB was so I could heat my shop too.
I think the next project is gonna be to build a gasser.
I've got a storage tank already which someday is gonna be tied in with some hydronic solar panels so that part is taken care of.
I'm just trying to get a grasp on the need for specified draft requirements when the induction is "forced".
 
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