Fireview is installed

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zelachowski

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Jan 14, 2012
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I know you want pictures... it's in the cards. I've just started the third burn and engaged the cat. stove top 250 and single wall pipe 400. Later when I want to keep this burning overnight what should the stove pipe temp. be? My old Classic I would keep it around 350-400 is that the same here? One observation is this stove is so quiet compared to the non air tight Classic. Any other advice gladly taken.
 
Congratulations on your new stove!

It sounds like you engaged pretty close to the recommended. As time goes on you may have to increase those numbers a tad, like 300 stove top and maybe or maybe not on the flue. It might take a week or so go get accustomed to this stove and find out the right setting for you. But basically when we engage the cat we turn the draft down to around 1, depending on the fire we have at the time. If the fire settles down so there is no flame then you may want to try 1 1/4 or 1 1/2. For us, the sweet spot seems to be about 3/4 of the way to 1. Some find that 1 works for them.

If you want more heat, then for sure you want to keep some flame in the firebox. For overnight, we usually start out with just a very small flame in the firebox. That will later drop to no flame at all but the stove top will be 600 or more or less. What we tend to do for night fires is shove most of the coals toward the front then put the largest piece in the back of the stove. Sometimes this is a round but it can also be a large split or a fairly good sized square piece. Then fill the stove from there. If you have all small splits you may or may not be able to completely fill the firebox because small splits will burn much faster.

One thing to remember is that everyone does not get the same results and that is why the draft settings can be different. Naturally as you know the wood makes the most difference. Just a couple days ago I posted about getting the stove almost to that 700 degree mark. 690 if my memory is right. The thing about it is that was only 3 splits!

Take some time to learn the stove. I remember we had to as this is our first epa stove and it reacts a bit different from other stoves we've had. But the big thing is that it is all positive! Compared to the larger stove we had before we now use about half the amount of wood and we stay a whole lot warmer.

Enjoy.
 
Hi Dennis, I followed your break in instructions from last year, a good thread for new Woodstock owners like me. This stove is only in the break in period and appears to be throwing more heat than the Classic. Thanks for the other advice. Cheers, Ken
 
More than the Classic! That is good news Ken. Do you think perhaps it might be because of the glass? And it is good to know you followed those instructions as I think it is a good way to do it and I got Woodstock's blessing on that one too.
 
zelachowski said:
I know you want pictures... it's in the cards. I've just started the third burn and engaged the cat. stove top 250 and single wall pipe 400. Later when I want to keep this burning overnight what should the stove pipe temp. be? My old Classic I would keep it around 350-400 is that the same here? One observation is this stove is so quiet compared to the non air tight Classic. Any other advice gladly taken.

Great to hear that you have a new Fireview. Please keep us informed about the performance of your stove and your overall satisfaction with it. The Fireview is my current stove of choice for purchase later this year. Of particular interest to me is the SS cat and how it works for you. There are many reports of SS cats changing in performance after a few months of burning. The guys here will want to know about your wood (type, age etc.) and if you have issues. Personally, I think you will be very happy with the Fireview. I can't speak from experience, since I do n ot own one yet, but you will find plenty of people here that are satisfied owners.
Tim
 
Great choice for your new stove.
I can't believe how easy the Fireview is to run.
I feed mine twice a day and always have plenty of heat.
 
I am also a fairly new Fireview owner and I couldn't be happier.
Far surpassed my expectations to this point.
 
Day two with the new Fireview, so far so amazed with how quiet it is when burning. The most amazing point is the heat output coupled with what appears to be a huge reduction in wood use(a one day study). I lit this fire at 4:15 am and is now 9:30 am slightly less than half the wood has been consumed. Stove top temp 425, flue temp 200. Stove is set for 3/4 so not quite 1 and it's 78 inside. Outside the wind is rocking and it's 20 and sunny. I loaded the stove with half of what I would have used with the Classic and I would normally be thinking of reloading a second fire. Even my wife thinks it's plenty warm inside, she hasn't said that in a long, long while. Need I say I am pleased with the results thus far.
 
Congrats on the new Fireview. It will be an interesting comparison between the Classic and Fireview. I bet you will be more efficient with the Fireview just because you can see what's going on in the fire box.

I've always wanted to try out a Classic but figure I'd miss the view of the fire. I did see a youtube video of a Classic with a glass side door but it must get dirty pretty quick with no air wash.
 
Actually this thread is really timed good. Seems lately most posting about Woodstock stoves are about the Progress. It brings to mind what I told Tom Morrissey, "You built such a great stove with the Fireview that many folks just won't want to switch to the Progress." We both laughed and he knew exactly what I was talking about.
 
Fourteen hours since lighting the Fireview, I'm finally ready to relight it at 71 degrees inside. I may wait one more hour, but all I can say is wow. What difference a cat. stove makes.
 
I almost forgot you had the old non cat classic. You should see a big difference in heat output and wood savings. Sure wood like to see some pictures of the old and new.
 
Here's my wife's drawing of our old Classic. She's talented and cute too.
 

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Here's the new Fireview. Note that Eddie our cat is taking his spot in front of the stove. The stove is not set in a fireplace, but the location of a built in cookstove. The brick oven is to the left of the photo. These early cookstoves were mortared into the masonery and did not have ovens. Sorry, I love history and had to talk about it a little bit.
 

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zelachowski said:
Here's the new Fireview. Note that Eddie our cat is taking his spot in front of the stove. The stove is not set in a fireplace, but the location of a built in cookstove. The brick oven is to the left of the photo. These early cookstoves were mortared into the masonery and did not have ovens. Sorry, I love history and had to talk about it a little bit.

1. How old is the house?

2. Stone walls?

3. Why do cats love boxes? Seriously, I can't keep mine out of any box I bring into the house.
 
The house is 160 years old. Yes, we have stone walls bounding all the 53 acres on our farm. There were and still are plenty of material for rock wall building some stones are the size of a bus. This cat, like any, I guess climbs into boxes, bags, suitcases or open drawers.
 
Very nice it looks great in your house! Your wife's drawing looks great as well !

Pete
 
Is that a miniature Fireview or a really massive cat? :bug:

Congrats on your new stove.

Dirt
 
Looks good, I really like the old homes in New England, some really neat fireplaces if someone didnt knock them out somewhere down the line.
 
Dirtsurgeon said:
Is that a miniature Fireview or a really massive cat? :bug:

Congrats on your new stove.

Dirt


Looks like the cat might have been able to drag the Fireview into the home by itself.
 
I've had the Fireview running a couple of months and like it a lot. Tosses out a bit more heat, higher stove top temp, than the Keystone.
You asked for advice...Don't let a potato chip crumb fall from your shirt onto the top stone; It will leave an oil spot. :lol:

Is that the metallic blue paint or the charcoal?




zelachowski said:
Here's my wife's drawing of our old Classic. She's talented and cute too.
The first assertion is supported by the pic, but not the second... :smirk:
 
Nice looking stove for the home. That makes a nice match. It looks real warm and cuzy in there to me.
 
I'm glad you enjoyed the pictures. I'll try and get a few exterior shots and post them in the picture section sometime in the next week or so. The stove is the Charcoal finish, we wanted to stay traditional to go with our house. The cat is about 20 lbs so a little larger than the average, he's in his box as I type this. As I have restored the house I insulated it with 4 inches of closed cell urethane in the walls and roof. The floor has 2 inches of urethane and we use interior storms to save the 1840 9 over 6 sash. Thanks for all the comments and advice from the members.
 
Todd said:
Congrats on the new Fireview. It will be an interesting comparison between the Classic and Fireview. I bet you will be more efficient with the Fireview just because you can see what's going on in the fire box.

I've always wanted to try out a Classic but figure I'd miss the view of the fire. I did see a youtube video of a Classic with a glass side door but it must get dirty pretty quick with no air wash.

I have a Fireview 201 with no airwash. The glass only gets dirty if I burn wet or underseasoned wood. :)

Congrats on your new Fireview, OP! We love our new (old) 201. I'm trying to convince DH to consider the Progress, only because our house is very drafty and I think the extra horsepower would be welcome, at least in terms of loading. We've had a mild winter and a very drafty, 1700's house, and I load the stove at least 4 times/day between 6 AM and 9 PM on cold (below 30) days/nights. Most people don't have to do as much, but again we are very drafty, and the places I need insulation now are going to cost $10,000 whereas the Progress is only $2,400...you see my logic...lol.

Pictures, please! And did your Classic find a nice home?
 
mfglickman said:
Todd said:
Congrats on the new Fireview. It will be an interesting comparison between the Classic and Fireview. I bet you will be more efficient with the Fireview just because you can see what's going on in the fire box.

I've always wanted to try out a Classic but figure I'd miss the view of the fire. I did see a youtube video of a Classic with a glass side door but it must get dirty pretty quick with no air wash.

I have a Fireview 201 with no airwash. The glass only gets dirty if I burn wet or underseasoned wood. :)

Congrats on your new Fireview, OP! We love our new (old) 201. I'm trying to convince DH to consider the Progress, only because our house is very drafty and I think the extra horsepower would be welcome, at least in terms of loading. We've had a mild winter and a very drafty, 1700's house, and I load the stove at least 4 times/day between 6 AM and 9 PM on cold (below 30) days/nights. Most people don't have to do as much, but again we are very drafty, and the places I need insulation now are going to cost $10,000 whereas the Progress is only $2,400...you see my logic...lol.

Pictures, please! And did your Classic find a nice home?


I completely understand the old drafty house issue (1741 stone farm house over here). Fact is, a larger stove will make your life a lot easier. Especially during unseasonably cold weather. Apart from some wet wood/cat issues I am dealing with, the Defiant is a perfect example of what a large stove can do. With the Defiant I burn less wood in the same time period as I do with the Heritage. On mild to normal winter temps I can put two or three splits on a good bed of coals and be set for 5-7 hours (probably what you would expect from the Progress). On a big bed of coals, a full reload will last 9 to 14 hours, depending upon the wood and length of splits (about the same as a Progress, but Woodstock is a bit more efficient with better air controls).

A large stove for your situation would cut down on work, give you a warmer house, you will spend less time (or no time) in the morning chasing the cold out of the house, while your wood consumption will not increase much. In fact, if I manage to purchase another large stove by next winter I anticipate wood consumption dropping.

If cost is an issue, there is always the Enlgander 30. If you have a really drafty house, that stove will serve you well on a budget.
 
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