Used Buck Model 81 - Maintenance

  • Active since 1995, Hearth.com is THE place on the internet for free information and advice about wood stoves, pellet stoves and other energy saving equipment.

    We strive to provide opinions, articles, discussions and history related to Hearth Products and in a more general sense, energy issues.

    We promote the EFFICIENT, RESPONSIBLE, CLEAN and SAFE use of all fuels, whether renewable or fossil.
Status
Not open for further replies.

ridensnow23

Member
Feb 29, 2012
88
Western PA
Hello,

I purchased a used Buck model 81 wood burning insert from a family friend. He used it for about 10 years. It's in pretty good shape overall. A few fire bricks need replaced, and I plan to redo the door gasket.

Right now the insert is sitting in the middle of my basement not hooked up. Now is the best time to do any type of maintenance on it before I install it. Besides the items mentioned above, what other items on the insert should I clean/maintain before installation? It is a non-cat.

Any guidance is appreciated.
 
I have a follow up to this. I pulled the cracked fire bricks out tonight. I noticed that the bricks were cemented in with some type of adhesive. When I replace the bricks, is it necessary to cement them in, or is it safe to just leave them in loose.

Furthermore, I noticed that the steel plate baffle has a curve to it. Does anyone know if the curve is part of the design or if this is due to warping?
 
Normally the firebrick is not cemented. Maybe the owner was repairing some cracked bricks? The baffle should be watched. If the warping is slight, it may have some more life in it. If it cracks or starts restricting exhaust it should be replaced.
 
I believe the bricks were all original. I am going to give Buck Stove a call tomorrow and see what their take is on these two items.
 
I have the buck 81... The top baffle plate is originally straight. Mine warped too. I bought a new one and buck sent me a white "rigid" insulation replacement. I have not switched it out yet and have been meaning to contact buck to see if the rigid insulation is supposed to serve as a replacement to the steel baffle plate. I would imagine you could take it out, pound it back, flip it over and reinstall.? That was my original thought.

Oh, adhesive on bottom bricks and no adhesive on side bricks... That is how my stove came. Bought 2 years ago.
 
I just got off the phone with a woman at Buck. Here is a quick summary:

1) My baffle plate is curved. Is this by design or is it warped? Response: They are flat, so mine is warped. She said that if the warping is not bad and not blocking the flue, then I can continue using it. I'd say mine has about a 1/2 inch curve from the corner to the apex. I am just going to order a new one since the part is only around $30.

2) My baffle is made of plate steel. Are they still constructed of steel or has the design changed? Response: They are still made of steel. (smmm, you may want to call them about what they sent you)

3) The fire bricks are cemented to the walls of the stove. Is it necessary to cement in the replacement bricks? Response: The cement will eventually deteriorate because of the heat, so there is no need to cement in the new bricks.

4) There is a piece of insulation in the top of the stove. Should that insulation just sit on top of the baffle plate? Reponse: Yes.
 
I have a Buck 81 insert and my baffle is also slightly warped. So far it has not seemed to affect the stove's performance. I have given some thought to trying to flip it over. Regarding the insulation you referenced on top of the baffle- that is the smoke blanket. I would also suggest checking the gasket around the door with a dollar bill test. Anyway, hope you enjoy stove!
 
Thanks for the update on your phone call. I will call buck and tell them they sent me the wrong plate. Thats funny because on my sotve the bricks were only adhered at the bottom. The side bricks were loose and just held in place by the steel edge running across the top.
 
It's worth noting that my Buck is over 10 years old. I'm sure they changed their manufacturing process along the way.

If I had to guess I would say the cement was used only to hold the bricks in place for shipping. Cementing the bottom bricks would allow them ship the unit on its back side without risk of the bricks falling.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.