Cold Stove House Temp Observation

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wkpoor

Minister of Fire
Oct 30, 2008
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Amanda, OH
Yesterday morn we let the stove go cold for first time since last October/early Nov. It got to 70 degrees here so didn't need it. Got home last night and house temps were exactly what they had been the night before according the same thermometer in the same location (68). We both froze all night. Got up in the morning and it was 66 as it dropped 2 degrees in the night and we were just plain freezing. Strange thing is when the stove is going those are the exact same temps it would have been and we are comfortable in those temps with the stove going. So I'm thinking when people quote room temps that not necessarily the whole story. Before you say my thermometer is off I have checked it against others and with an IR gun. Its just one of those phenomenas. My house on the 2nd and 3rd floor is 1800sqft with 35 windows (most 6'ers) 3 sets of double french doors, and the great room has an 18' ceiling. Unless I'm pumping continous heat into that space it feels cold.
 
Yep. The way it works here too. 68 with the stove going it is warmer than 68 without it. Of course if this place get below seventy, something is gonna start burning.
 
I am like BB below seventy the stove gets started.

I like it around 78 in my house and that is with stove running.
 
It's the temperature gradient. Your thermostat should be located centrally, not near any doors or windows. When the heat is on, the thermostat reads 68 and the rest of the house around it (closer to the doors and windows) is also 68, due to heat circulation. With the heat off, there is a gradual cooling from the exterior walls to the central area with the thermostat. Thus the thermostat can be reading at or near 68, but the rest of the house is cooler. Try taking IR readings in various locations in the house, further from the thermostat. They'll be warmer with the heat on, cooler with it off.

If you have forced air circulation, turn it on without the heat. Soon the whole house will be at about the same temperature and your thermostat will be reading significantly cooler than 68.
 
DanCorcoran said:
It's the temperature gradient. Your thermostat should be located centrally, not near any doors or windows. When the heat is on, the thermostat reads 68 and the rest of the house around it (closer to the doors and windows) is also 68, due to heat circulation. With the heat off, there is a gradual cooling from the exterior walls to the central area with the thermostat. Thus the thermostat can be reading at or near 68, but the rest of the house is cooler. Try taking IR readings in various locations in the house, further from the thermostat. They'll be warmer with the heat on, cooler with it off.

If you have forced air circulation, turn it on without the heat. Soon the whole house will be at about the same temperature and your thermostat will be reading significantly cooler than 68.
Thermometer is located close to thermostat but thermostat is of no consequence since it is turned off. I have many times checked temps all around the house and readings on second floor are pretty even only a degree or 2 off. 2nd floor for us is 1st floor for most others. Our main entrance is the walkout basement. As for getting above 68 on 2nd floor ain't going to happen. No amount of heat will get us there. Stove ran at 750 degrees for 2 hours last night before tapering off and still upstairs didn't move even a 10th degree. New stove on the way to hopefully remedy that.
 
If I kept my house at the temps some of you do I would burn half again as much wood as I do now.
 
oldspark said:
If I keep my house at the temps some of you do I would burn half again as much wood as I do now.

If I could keep my house in the low 70's all year round I would! 70-72 in the winter 70-72 in the summer, no way I can afford that in the summer time so I settle on mid 70's(75-76) with the a/c running.
 
The root of my problem is asking one stove located in a walkout basement to heat 2800sqft on 3 floors and the 2nd floor has an 18' ceiling. Just too much heat loss. My guess is when I start heating drywall instead of concrete I'll have the opposite problem.
 
Anything below 75 and I am freezing, but I don't get the stove going until it drops to 71 at which point I think I am suffering from hypothermia :bug:
One advantage of liking it hot is I can keep the A/C turned up to 80 and save a ton on the electric bill. Power company hates me in the winter and summer :coolgrin:
 
Got to have temperature in house 78+ or its just darn cold. Double walled brick and lots of windows single pane 1100 sq. feet. The brick are like a big heat sink, always cold in the winter. Like heating a unfinished basement Lots of mass. Dog likes it warm to.
 
Fake coal burner said:
Got to have temperature in house 78+ or its just darn cold. Double walled brick and lots of windows single pane 1100 sq. feet. The brick are like a big heat sink, always cold in the winter. Like heating a unfinished basement Lots of mass. Dog likes it warm to.
Must not be near the heat sink my basement is because I have never seen anything over 74 degrees ever. Its just not possible to get it there and thats measuring the temp in the center of the basement 4 feet off the ground. Floor will be 68 and ceiling around 85 in that same spot.
 
I have hit 87 in my living room with the Magnolia but that was last winter with really good wood.
 
wkpoor said:
Fake coal burner said:
Got to have temperature in house 78+ or its just darn cold. Double walled brick and lots of windows single pane 1100 sq. feet. The brick are like a big heat sink, always cold in the winter. Like heating a unfinished basement Lots of mass. Dog likes it warm to.
Must not be near the heat sink my basement is because I have never seen anything over 74 degrees ever. Its just not possible to get it there and thats measuring the temp in the center of the basement 4 feet off the ground. Floor will be 68 and ceiling around 85 in that same spot.


We heat our Ranch from the basement with the Lopi Liberty, we like the bedroom 68 an the livingroom 70, if it gets colder we don't mind it. I do remember our first year burning I decided after waking up late in the recliner that the house would be warm enough without loading up the stove for the overnight burn so I went to bed (-15 out) woke up to a bedroom temp of 57. :sick: I swear that I could see my wifes breath.


zap
 
corey21 said:
I have hit 87 in my living room with the Magnolia but that was last winter with really good wood.
Guess that goes to show the difference in heat envelopes. I had a Magnolia sitting in same spot last year before the Elm arrived and we were freezing. And I was way over firing that sucker till I warped it trying to stay warm.
 
metalsped said:
Wow... you all like it sweltering! We keep our house at 66 all day long. 60 at night.
That will prolly change when wood heat arrives.
 
I prefer 74-75° in the winter and the summer.....Hey what can I say at least I'm consistent LOL
 
zapny said:
We heat our Ranch from the basement with the Lopi Liberty, we like the bedroom 68 an the livingroom 70, if it gets colder we don't mind it. I do remember our first year burning I decided after waking up late in the recliner that the house would be warm enough without loading up the stove for the overnight burn so I went to bed (-15 out) woke up to a bedroom temp of 57. :sick: I swear that I could see my wifes breath.

zap

Do you lisp? ( I swear that I could see my wifes breath. )
 
I have woken to 57 also and it wasn't even close to -15. In fact if my house where 57 with it -15 I would consider that success. Thats a 72 degree delta. I never have achieved that here yet.
 
I agree, the delta you can maintain between indoor/outdoor temperatures is the key. It varies with your stove/wood, the insulation in your house, and the wind outside.
 
I am betting your thermometer is right on - and think it has everything to do with humidity. Wood heat will dry a house and get rid of the bone chilling feeling that higher humidity/same temp gives you. Do you have a hydrometer?
 
My house runs typically 35-40% in the winter.
 
@ swampy...haha...that's better than smellin it.
 
Why is it? Yesterday was sunny, breezy, low 60s, with the stove at low burn, and 72-73 was way too warm in here. Right now, it's drizzling, gloomy, upper 40s, stove is lumbering along at 450, and 75 doesn't feel quite warm enough.
 
You know it's mental?!
 
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