Pin Oak updated with 1st load pics

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08brute

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UPDATE - Go to page 2 to see pics the 1st load.

In preparation for a new building project at my work, we hired a tree service to take out 13 fifty year old trees. I asked if they would leave the trunks for me and they agreed. I am able to use the skid loader that we have for snow removal along with my grapple bucket to load them up on my trailer. Hopefully I can get them all in a load or two. They are 56 miles from my home but the cost won't be too excessive because I am not making any extra trips (loading at the end of work day).

Any guess on the weight I am looking at here? 13 trunks at about 24" to 30" across and about 30' tall.
(Here is my try - 24" X 30 = 60 sq ft or 46.9% of a cord...at 3000 lbs/cord each trunk would be 1407 lbs)

My CEO says that most of these are Pin Oak but the tree service said Locust and Ash. Any ideas on what this wood may be? I couldn’t find any fruit, acorns, or leaves. The lower branches have been trimmed. My CEO says they are 50+ years old.

If it is Pin Oak, where does that land on the BTU/Weight chart (I know it is lower than other oak). I don't see it on sweeps BTU chart.
 

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Some bark pics.
 

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Looks like Pin Oaks to me. Pin Oaks that have had their lower branches trimmed. Pin Oak is a Red Oak. Same BTUs as Red Oak.......
 
Thanks for the quick reply, Danny. To me it looks like the bark in my 2 pictures are different from each other. The one on the right is a little thinner, wider, and more shallow. Thoughts?
 
Its hard to tell in those pics. Both look like a red oak bark though. so many "red oaks" bark could be slightly different tree to tree? None of those bark pictures look like Ash or Locust though thats for sure.
 
all I know is that its HEAVY! I think oak is 5000+ lbs / cord. I dont know how big of a trailer you have, but unless its a semi trailer, I'd plan on more than a couple of trips.
 
I have a 30' fifth wheel trailer with 3 7000# axles but there is no way I would ever put 21k on it. I am only comfortable hauling about 12k on it. If Pin Oak is the same as Red Oak it is 3570# a cord. I will post pictures of my load and let you all know how it went.

Bocefus78 said:
all I know is that its HEAVY! I think oak is 5000+ lbs / cord. I dont know how big of a trailer you have, but unless its a semi trailer, I'd plan on more than a couple of trips.
 
That looks like a lot of fun to split.
 
I was thinking the same thing. No round has stopped my 22 ton TSC yet but we will see.

woodsmaster said:
That looks like a lot of fun to split.
 
NICE SCORE!! I don't care what kind of wood it is (as long as it isn't catalpa or willow), if you don't want it I'LL TAKE IT!!
 
Difficult to tell for sure by the pictures but the pictures of the trees do look like pin oak.
 
Looks like the known pin oaks around here.

Looking at the surroundings, it also makes that they're pin oaks because they're often purposely planted at schools, businesses, urban/suburban areas because of their tolerance of poor conditions.
 
Doesn't look like the ash or locusts I see growing around here.

Good deal incidentally.
 
Certainly does look like it could be pin oak.
Except 1.jpg. there's some history there with that one.
Glad I'm not the one splitting it. That middle section is going to test your battle-fu.
 
+1 on the splitting. Only time my tough-as-nails father ever used a splitter was for 4 large pin oaks. Splitter busted right through it, though.
 
08brute said:
I have a 30' fifth wheel trailer with 3 7000# axles but there is no way I would ever put 21k on it. I am only comfortable hauling about 12k on it. If Pin Oak is the same as Red Oak it is 3570# a cord. I will post pictures of my load and let you all know how it went.

Bocefus78 said:
all I know is that its HEAVY! I think oak is 5000+ lbs / cord. I dont know how big of a trailer you have, but unless its a semi trailer, I'd plan on more than a couple of trips.

Red oak is about 3750lbs/cord when seasoned. Wet it is probably closer to 6000lbs+.

If I read right.....you have 13 trees, each 24-30" diameter and 30ft tall??? If so, thats about a cord per tree (actually a bit more)!!! I'm thinking you have somewhere between 11-14 cord depending on the growth of the tree!!!

Got my info from this link:
http://extension.unh.edu/resources/files/Resource001044_Rep1200.pdf

Even though you have a big honkin trailer....you're gonna need to make more than a couple runs!!! You're looking at upwards of 75,000lbs!!! If you run out of room I'll take some!
 
Where 'bouts in South Dakota are you. I'm over in Rapid City...
 
I have a Pin Oak in my back yard. By the looks of your pictures I am almost certain that they are Pin Oaks. Notice how high up the trunk the branches have been removed. Pin Oaks naturally droop their 'lower' branches to the ground. Yes, they had to cut that high up to get the tips of those branches out of pedestrians faces.

As mentioned. Red Oak family. Quite heavy wood green. Still heavy wood when dry/seasoned.

Best of luck. Stay safe.
 
Ash_403 said:
Quite heavy wood green.
http://www.burleyboys.com/log-weight-calculator/log-weight-calculator.html
 
08brute said:
In preparation for a new building project at my work, we hired a tree service to take out 13 fifty year old trees. I asked if they would leave the trunks for me and they agreed. I am able to use the skid loader that we have for snow removal along with my grapple bucket to load them up on my trailer. Hopefully I can get them all in a load or two. They are 56 miles from my home but the cost won't be too excessive because I am not making any extra trips (loading at the end of work day).

Any guess on the weight I am looking at here? 13 trunks at about 24" to 30" across and about 30' tall.
(Here is my try - 24" X 30 = 60 sq ft or 46.9% of a cord...at 3000 lbs/cord each trunk would be 1407 lbs)

My CEO says that most of these are Pin Oak but the tree service said Locust and Ash. Any ideas on what this wood may be? I couldn’t find any fruit, acorns, or leaves. The lower branches have been trimmed. My CEO says they are 50+ years old.

If it is Pin Oak, where does that land on the BTU/Weight chart (I know it is lower than other oak). I don't see it on sweeps BTU chart.

OK, cords are measured by cubic feet, not square feet. The formula for this is PixR^2xh, so a 24" x30' log is 94 cubic feet, give or take. That's 73% of a cord. Here's a good link to help out. http://easycalculation.com/area/cylinder.php

Multiply that by 13 and you are at 9.5 cord. A cord of green oak is going to weigh about 4,800 lbs. That's probably close to 50,000 lbs. I hope you have a big trailer....and truck...if you want to get it in two trips.

EDIT: In reality, there's much more cordage in a log than there is in c/s/s firewood, so I would at 25%-30% to that weight to account for the air that is in a stack of wood that isn't in a log. So more like 65,000 lbs.
 
lukem said:
OK, cords are measured by cubic feet, not square feet. The formula for this is PixR^2xh, so a 24" x30' log is 94 cubic feet, give or take. That's 73% of a cord. Here's a good link to help out.

EDIT: In reality, there's much more cordage in a log than there is in c/s/s firewood, so I would at 25%-30% to that weight to account for the air that is in a stack of wood that isn't in a log. So more like 65,000 lbs.
Yeah, isn't a cord about 80 cu.ft. of solid wood?
 
Some Pics of the load. Ended up being a lot bigger trunks than I expected. I had to cut some of the logs to 4' for the New Holland 180 to lift them. Heavy Stuff! At least 2 or 3 more loads to get it all. The tree service disposed of anything smaller than about 1 1/2'.

(The reason it looks kind of funny is that the trailer is down a hill.)
 

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