Puffing Problem- Conventional Wood Boiler

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NewBoiler

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Feb 23, 2010
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I have been having a problem with my Kerr wood boiler since I installed it two years ago. It doesn't happen very often, maybe once or twice a week. Once the boiler gets up to temperature, burning really well, and the air control closes, the boiler pufss smoke out the air door and sometimes blows right out the barometric damper. It actually blew the damper off a few times. It only does this when it gets up to temperature and closes the air. The boiler is connected to a 30 foot stainless steel lined masonary chimney with lots of draft.
I feel that the air contyrol closing is choking the fire too fast maybe? How can I fix the issue?
 
I don't know much about your boiler, but from my limited experience, huffing usually means a lack of air. But you want to shut down the air when you are up to temp. So . . . like you, I wonder if you could find a way to close the air off more slowly.
 
maybe try bigger wood or wood that is not as dry if your wood is very dry.
 
I have been having a problem with my Kerr wood boiler since I installed it two years ago. It doesn't happen very often, maybe once or twice a week. Once the boiler gets up to temperature, burning really well, and the air control closes, the boiler pufss smoke out the air door and sometimes blows right out the barometric damper. It actually blew the damper off a few times. It only does this when it gets up to temperature and closes the air. The boiler is connected to a 30 foot stainless steel lined masonary chimney with lots of draft.
I feel that the air contyrol closing is choking the fire too fast maybe? How can I fix the issue?

I had a Kerr TW2000 for about 15 years. Mine, too, puffed sometimes. When the wood load was early in the burning stages, and there was lots of gasses coming off, and the damper was closed down, I'd get little explosions that would make the damper kick open and spew out a nice handful of ash, dust, smoke and sometimes a flame. The first few times it happend, and I heard/smelled it, I sat there like a dummy watching it, with my face just a few inches away from the damper. POOF! I leaped back, hitting the wall, and spitting ash. Had to take a shower!

The manufacturer offered no solution. I figured it was just an oxygen starvation situation, letting the combustive gasses build up until they exploded, instead of burning them off slowly in a controlled manner. So I drilled a little hole, about 3/16", in the centre of the damper. Just that little bit of air flow stopped most of the puffing / explosions.

And I didn't put in a big load of wood in the boiler when I was near my max temps, to avoid the idling with fresh firewood that was the biggest culprit of the puffing.

BTW - I don't believe my situation had anything to do with house air pressure or chimney draw. My chimney is 32' of 7" stainless steel, and it draws cleanly and consistently. I don't have smoke rolling out of the boiler when I open the door.

One more thing: I was not happy with the how the TW2000 held the damper open until the high temp was reached. I felt once it got a roaring fire going, it dumped a lot of hi temp exhaust up my chimney. So I installed an adjustable 10 minute timer in my damper circuit, and set it for about 7 minutes. So when the system called for the damper to open, it would open for 7 minutes, then close for 3. As the fire got roasty hot from the draft being open for 7 minutes, it then shut down for 3. I got more hot water during the 3 mintues of damper shut down than I did during the 7 minutes of damper open!

Good luck with your system.
 
I had a Kerr TW2000 for about 15 years. Mine, too, puffed sometimes. When the wood load was early in the burning stages, and there was lots of gasses coming off, and the damper was closed down, I'd get little explosions that would make the damper kick open and spew out a nice handful of ash, dust, smoke and sometimes a flame. The first few times it happend, and I heard/smelled it, I sat there like a dummy watching it, with my face just a few inches away from the damper. POOF! I leaped back, hitting the wall, and spitting ash. Had to take a shower!

The manufacturer offered no solution. I figured it was just an oxygen starvation situation, letting the combustive gasses build up until they exploded, instead of burning them off slowly in a controlled manner. So I drilled a little hole, about 3/16", in the centre of the damper. Just that little bit of air flow stopped most of the puffing / explosions.

And I didn't put in a big load of wood in the boiler when I was near my max temps, to avoid the idling with fresh firewood that was the biggest culprit of the puffing.

BTW - I don't believe my situation had anything to do with house air pressure or chimney draw. My chimney is 32' of 7" stainless steel, and it draws cleanly and consistently. I don't have smoke rolling out of the boiler when I open the door.

One more thing: I was not happy with the how the TW2000 held the damper open until the high temp was reached. I felt once it got a roaring fire going, it dumped a lot of hi temp exhaust up my chimney. So I installed an adjustable 10 minute timer in my damper circuit, and set it for about 7 minutes. So when the system called for the damper to open, it would open for 7 minutes, then close for 3. As the fire got roasty hot from the draft being open for 7 minutes, it then shut down for 3. I got more hot water during the 3 mintues of damper shut down than I did during the 7 minutes of damper open!

Good luck with your system.


Thanks maplewood, the hole is exactly what I was thinking, giving it just enuff air to stop the puffing but not allowing it to overheat.

The suggestion about the timer sounds interesting too, I always thought I was loosing alot of heat up the chimney. Do you have anymore dtails or pics?
 
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