Masonry Chimney Draft Question

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BuckyBeaver

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I am building a new house and am planning on having a wood burning stove. The builder wants to put in a exterior masonry chimney with a 6 inch clay tile flue liner. The chimney will be about 22 feet tall. My question is will this type of chimney have an adequate draft for a wood burning stove, or should I go with a double walled insulated metal chimney instead? Thanks
 
I suspect it would work . . . but I personally would go with the Class A (insulated) metal chimney . . . I think you'll be happier with the draft, cleaning, etc.

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Hi - I would not do it that way. At 22' tall a larger 10x10 tile liner is not much more cost and a lot easier to line. I have installed 2 stoves into masonry chimneys. I was able to get good performance and draft with rigid liner (6"). Class A is not needed and costs way more.

The 6" tile can work but it can also break... Then what? It also takes time to warm up... More time at cool temps = slower light off, slower heat, more cleaning...

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Metal or clay, a chimney will always work better (not to mention heat loss) if you can run it inside rather than exterior, and a wood stove will heat your house more evenly if it is located closer to the center mass of the house rather than against an exterior wall. Since this house hasn't been built yet it should still be easy to incoorporate these things into the plan.
Like Jake, I'd personaly go with class A metal.
 
He wants to run the chimney on the outside wall because it's far easier that way.

A masonry chimney will hold a lot of thermal mass if it's in the center of your house and will help heat it.

At the very least I would want whatever he installed as close to the center of the house as possible.
 
Go for the masonry chimney if that's what you want, but instead of having a clay liner put in, install a stainless liner. You can insulate the liner if you wish.
A new masonry chimney (ie. chimney blocks) with a stainless steel liner will cost you less than $100 more than the same chimney with the clay liner. The SS liner gets hot quickly and won't deteriorate over time like the clay will. Covering the liner with an insulation blanket will almost guarantee a great draft. I didn't insulate mine, but the draft is still excellent.

Hope this helps a bit!
 
Really, REALLY think about this. You would be sooooooo, much better off with a central interior chimney. Why build in a defect in a new house? Put the chimney inside the warm building environment.

http://www.woodheat.org/outside-chimney.html
 
Go for the masonry chimney if that's what you want, but instead of having a clay liner put in, install a stainless liner. You can insulate the liner if you wish.
A new masonry chimney (ie. chimney blocks) with a stainless steel liner will cost you less than $100 more than the same chimney with the clay liner. The SS liner gets hot quickly and won't deteriorate over time like the clay will. Covering the liner with an insulation blanket will almost guarantee a great draft. I didn't insulate mine, but the draft is still excellent.

Hope this helps a bit!
Thanks for the advice. I have a question regarding the insulation: can it be placed right up against the S.S. liner? And what type of insulation should I use?
 
I'd go stainless.. As a alternative as mentioned by someone else, 10" with the intent of adding an insulated SS liner later. I would not go with 6" clay.

A metal flue also stays cleaner (because it heats up faster) and is usually easier to clean.

I'd also go with an interior fireplace for reasons that others have mentioned and because I believe its easier to get an airtight/watertight interface between the chimney and house structure. Masonry chimneys are very heavy. Houses and chimneys both settle but at different rates. This can be handled readily with a properly flashed roof penetration (a reglet with flashing/counterflashing).

I don't believe the differential movement is as easy to deal with when an external chimney and the walls next to it settle at different rates. I've been dealing with this problem at my house for years.
 
As a contractor that used to rebuild masonry chimney's, I would recommend against a clay flue liner. Re-builds are expensive and if you want to heat regularly with wood, you will find that they won't last all that long, especially as an exterior un-insulated chimney. IMO, your best bet would be what has already been mentioned; an interior masonry chimney with a SS liner. Even better if there is insulation between the SS and the clay flue tile and better still if the masonry part is thicker near the base level to act as a thermal battery.
 
The stainless liner insulation can be either a jacket that is held in place on the exterior of the liner or you can get pipe that is preinsulated like DuraVent's Duraliner pipe.
 
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