Where to buy Pellet Stove Auger Motors (I.E. GearMotor) without spending a fortune for OEM??

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Don2222

Minister of Fire
Feb 1, 2010
9,110
Salem NH
Hello

Does anyone know of any good places to buy a wood pellet stove Auger motor? Please put in a link.
This is what I have found so far.
Prices are all over the map!!!
Hello

$18.99 - 1.5 RPM 115 VAC GEARMOTOR
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=5-1760&catname=electric

$97.10 - DAYTON Gearmotor, 1.0 RPM, Torque 100, 115V, Open
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAYTON-AC-Gearmotor-1LNG2

$113.40 - Avalon Auger Motor 90-0191 1 RPM
http://woodheatstoves.com/avalon-auger-motor-900191-1-rpm-p-9587.html

$132.00 - Englander 1 RPM Counter Clockwise Auger Motor
http://www.stove-parts-unlimited.com/Englander_Auger_Motor_p/pp7100.htm

Specs on Auger Motor Pic1 below.
(Is 1.5 RPM close enough to a 1.0 RPM for replacement??)
The price is right!!
1.5 RPM 115 VAC GEARMOTOR
New, Merkle-Korff inline gearmotor. Model 4590UI-046. Made to drive auger on corn/pellet stoves. Aluminum gear housing. Six 10-32 bolt hole face mount on 1-15/16" - 4-5/16" x 2-3/8" centers.

SPECIFICATIONS

Speed 1.5 RPM
Voltage 115 AC
Amperage 0.6 Amps
Torque 16 in. lbs.
Rotation CW

Duty Intermittent
Enclosure Open
Mount 6 holes on face
Shaft 3/8" dia. x 7/8 w/3/8-16 LH thread
Size 2-3/4" x 2-3/4" x 4-3/4"
Shpg. 3 lbs.

Specs below on Auger Motor Pic2
Model: PP7000-PSP-WHS 12-1010-EPP
Shipping Weight: 4lbs
Manufactured by: Avalon

This auger motor fits many pellet stoves including these: Avalon, Lopi, Envirofire, Whitfield, Waterford Erin, Pellet Master, Regency and Heat N Glo Pellet Stoves. This motor has a clockwise rotation as you face the auger shaft.

Breckwell part #C-E-017 1 rpm pellet stoves
Envirofire Part#SIEF001
Avalon Part#90-0191

And all Whitfield Pellet Stoves
This auger motor also fits most stoves requiring a 1 rpm motor
with a clockwise rotation when facing the auger-shaft side
Replaces ECM 1 rpm
shop notes PP7000-PSP or 12-1010-EPP
Product warranty one year
 

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I'd use a gleason Avery. One of the best built out there. You can buy direct. Less than $100 clams and continues duty rated!

IMHO Don't waste you money on an intermitten duty motor.
 
+1 on Gleason Avery. The one that came installed on my brand new Harman stove was a bit noisy, but the dealer swapped it out and the new one is dead silent. The tech said that isn't totally unusual, he does see a noisy one every now and then. But overall, he said that he sees very few G-A motors fail, and he's been doing Harman service for years.
 
I have a used gleason avery model A901 hows 55.00 shipped sound? Only used one season
 
Hello

Another good place for only $59.95 are made by FASCO
http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/fireplace.htm

For Englander stoves just flip the transformer for CCW rotation.

Rotation: CW facing shaft
Torque: 100 inch pounds
Continuous Duty
Shaft: 3/8" x 1" (no hole in shaft)
mfgr: Fasco / Von Weise
6 bolt holes: 8-32
Motor DIM: 2.75" x 4 5/8"
Bolt holes:
2 3/8" X 2 3/8" (top 4)
1 15/16" (bottom)

Cross Reference:
4515U1-063 (1 RPM)
Whitfield Quest, 93-0194
12046300 (1 RPM)
ECM-6, V07524ACD9, Traditions & Profile series stoves, Avalon, Austroflamm Breckwell, Merkle-Korff, National steel Crafters, Lennox Hearth 6216, Earth stove, Envirofire, Lopi, Pellet Master R7-RGM451, V08038AA09, 6216, CAR003, 6807
Fasco V003, Rotom R7-RGM451
NON REVERSIBLE

Pellet Stove Auger Gear Motor
1.0 RPM, 120 Volts, 60hz, .51 amps PV003 $59.95
 
Don, I replaced 2 of the auger OEM gear motors in my 25-PDVC in the last 2 years( they got hot and failed) with the Gleason Avery gear motors. The GA motors are vastly superior, stronger, quieter, cooler, and have a lot more torque--- It's like night and day.... I bought one on Ebay last Summer for $45.00 and found another used one at a yard sale for $10.00 ! As imacman said above, they can be bought from GA, the shopping cart price is $3.99 plus shipping.
 
Don, I replaced 2 of the auger OEM gear motors in my 25-PDVC in the last 2 years( they got hot and failed) with the Gleason Avery gear motors. The GA motors are vastly superior, stronger, quieter, cooler, and have a lot more torque--- It's like night and day.... I bought one on Ebay last Summer for $45.00 and found another used one at a yard sale for $10.00 ! As imacman said above, they can be bought from GA, the shopping cart price is $3.99 plus shipping.

Wow if I could get them that cheap I would. The one above for $59.95 is made by FASCO. They make good stuff too.

I just made a video on the older noisey MKs if you want to see!
See this thread
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads...p-auger-motor-quits-after-long-warm-up.85404/
 
i bought this one on amazon



by Auger Motor
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Price: $59.95


In Stock.
Ships from and sold by ELECTRIC MOTOR WAREHOUSE.

I just called Electronic Motor Warehoues. He said they ran out of the FASCOs which are mechanically reversible. They only have the wise brand that are not mechanically reversible. He said they may get the reversible motors next season!


So I ordered the same one from CSH Incorporated for $59.95
By calling their toll free # they will set it for CCW rotation looking at it from the front of the shaft!

http://www.cshincorporated.com/product_info.php/products_id/10184

PV003 1 RPM MultiProducts auger motor same as V003, HM-RGM451
[PV003] $59.95
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PV003 Auger motor by Multi Products of Wisconsin USA

115 Volts
SP/Open
.5 Amp
1 RPM
Continuous duty, Impedance Protected
CCW rotation, viewing from rear
3 in. body
Skeleton frame
1 in. x 3/8 in. shaft
PLEASE BE SURE OF YOUR ROTATION Rotation determined looking opposite auger drive shaft end, auger pointing away from you. NOTE for customers who ask...., it is possible to be mechanically reversed.
Please indicate the required rotation upon order. Looking opposite end (from the rear of the "gearbox") tell us Clockwise or Counter Clockwise.
Cross Reference: 4515U1-063, Whitfield Quest, 93-0194, 12046300, ECM-6, EMC6216, V07524ACD9, Traditions & Profile series stoves, Avalon, Austroflamm Breckwell, Merkle-Korff, National steel Crafters, Lennox Hearth 6216, Earth stove, Envirofire, Lopi, Pellet Master R7-RGM451, V08038AA09, 6216, CAR003, 6807, 4515UI-063, MOD 734, 4515UI-050 V003, HM-RGM451, 4515ui-63, 80488







2 new from $59.95
 
Hello

I really appreciate and respect all the auger motor advise and research that was done here. One thing I noticed is that ALL brands used in Englander pellet stoves have been upgraded over the years and of course not at the same time. The Gleason-Avery had a big advantage over the Merkle-Koriff for quite a while because of the G-A upgrades. Maybe it is due to the higher volume production of the MK motors, I do not know. There is a thread that shows a G-A motor posted by KingOfTheNorth that shows a sealed motor shaft but not a sealed shaft that turns the auger. See >
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/25-pdvc-auger-motor-overheating.24847/


Anyway I am trying to find the best continuous duty auger motor sealed everywhere possible on the Market today 03/2012.
The CSH auger motor in my previous post maybe it?

Here is more info on it from the source.
"Heavy Duty Strongest Available Design"
http://www.multiproducts.com/ac-gearmotors/ac-9000.htm

Model 9000AC - AC Gearmotor

Our most robust and cost-effective heavy-duty gearmotor offering an industry standard mounting allowing for easy retrofit into existing applications. Output shaft can exit from either side of the gearcase in addition to dual shaft extensions. The gearcase can handle a continuous torque rating up to 200 inlb. Available gear ratios allow output speeds ranging between 1 to 40 RPM.
Available AC voltages from 110 Volt through 240 Volt allow us to meet virtually any domestic, or international, single phase voltage requirement. Dual voltage and both 60 Hz and 50 Hz coils are available. The gearcase is made from sturdy die-cast zinc with extensive use of powdered metal gears. Cut steel gears and optional soft metal or nylon gearing for noise-sensitive applications is available. High quality oil-impregnated bronze sleeve bearings are standard with optional needle bearings available upon request. Large diameter idler pins help ensure long life. Output shaft diameters range from 3/8” through 1/2” with flats, keyways, threads, or square ends to meet your application needs.

Model 9901-A

Item #: 9901-A

Performance Data (Ref.)
Voltage 120 Volt 60 Hz
Rotation CCW
Idle Speed 1.3 RPM
Idle Amps 0.4
Rated Speed 1.0 RPM
Rated Torque 90 inlb
Stall Torque 200+ inlb
Stall Amps 0.45
Part Number Spec 9901-A
Product Details
  • Versatile, Standard Industry Mounting
  • Heavy Duty Zinc die-cast Housing
  • Common Industry Output Speed and Torque
  • Standard 3/8" Diameter Output Shaft with 1" Extension
  • High Temperature Spherical Bushings on Motor
  • Robust Output Flange Bearings in Gearcase
  • 2 - 12" Long Motor Hook-up Wires
  • Heavy Duty Geartrain Design
  • Nylon High Speed Gear for Smooth Operation
Download Motor Specifications
 
Hello

New Merkle-Korff Ind newer design Auger Motor for Pellet Stove - Hear how it sounds


Merkle-Koriff Industries
B4415 /B4415UI
P/N CU-047042
115v 60HZ 0.40 A
Z P Class "B"
ES3737 M SL10411

Same as this Merkle-Korff on the England Stove Works Web Site
http://www.englanderstoves.com/store/10-CDV_Parts.html

CU-047042 2.4 RPM Motor (4 lbs. each)
$130.98
2.4 rpm auger ('feed') motor for our Multi-Fuel unit - models with 10-CPM, 49-SHCPM, 49-SHCPML or 49-TRCPM in the model number.
ALSO is the auger ('feed') motor for the pellet utility furnace (models with "PUF" in model number) AND the Pellet Auxiliary Heater (models with 25-PAH, 55-SHPAH, 55-SHPAHL or 55-TRPAH in the model number).
ALSO is the stirrer motor (turns the stirrer) for the Corn Stove - model numbers 10-CDV, 49-SHC22 or 49-TRC22.
 

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Unfortunatly quad motors are a breed different,but there is a gleason avery square motor that may work,rpms slightly different.Unless you want to modify stove.Also,depending on what the problem is,the motor capacitor is known to cause problems and can be replaced without replacing the motor.
 
thanks, bob. i just noticed it making a buzzing noise.
it's feeding fine though.

i'll have to look into the capacitor scenario.
seems like one youtube video showing a buzzing motor actually mentioned the capacitor.
but as i said, it is working normally except for the buzz.
any suggestions/links for the best info on this capacitor issue?

the used motors i have seen so far are so close to the lower new prices that i can hardly see the advantage.

$140 used. $169 new.
if that's how it is, i'd just go for a new one.

do let me know if there are cheaper ones out there.
i'm not familiar with eses.
 
I have sold many Gleason Avery and a ton of Merkle Korff motors. Personally I find very little of consequence to distinguish between them. I have had quiet MKs and quiet GAs and noisy ones of each. I have had to replace GAs that were leaking oil around the output shaft and MKs leaking around the output shaft etc etc. A side by side comparison of the features of each the only listed difference is the Gleason Avery motors state they have "Bearings: Spherical" While the Merkle Korff says " Bearings: Self-aligning sintered bronze with large oil reservoir." even the torque output while generally higher on Gleason Avery motors is matched by MK motors, they just aren't as popular. I do have to say that I have sold and replaced far more Merkle Korff auger motors with a lot of years inside Whitfield pellet stoves that have been running for 20+ years before the motors gave out, and a good amount of the time it was from that bushing in the gear box wearing out. (The .08c fix as Butkus calls it) I haven't seen the same length of durability from Gleason Avery auger motors, but that is my personal experience, others may vary. The new design you are looking at Don has been out for at least a year and a half, probably longer but I didn't pay that much attention to when they changed. I attempted to make a video showing the difference in sound between two of the motors I have on hand here but I had some technical difficulties. I may try and add a video later.
 
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