Dutchwest 2461

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jimmyjon

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Sep 9, 2012
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Thinking about buying this stove
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hsh/3240241786.html
The story from the owner is he bought last feb and he intended to use it but never did. I just was wondering if his price is inline. And maybe a guesstimate on the year of this thing. Obviously condition of everything will be a factor any tips on inspection for me would be great.

Also how is the stove overall? Function, burn time, longevity being the cat stove
 
The flue exit height is 30". Not good with a 27" opening height.
 
I have had a DW 2460 for 16 years and would not hesitate to buy another. The DW 2461 is currently selling for $1295.00 + taxes here in Canada, $650.00 is a good deal if in good condition.

Inspection tips: remove four bolts located at the corners of the top plate. Lift off top plate, gently lift out refractory (they are fragile, especially after a few seasons of use), here you will find the catalytic combustor. The "cat" will tell you how much it has been used. You may want to check the sides and back for small cracks.

The stove advertised is more than a few years old, the new ones come with silver finish on the door handles (not the brass colored ones) and have been that way for 3-4 years of more.

http://www.discountstove.com/2461.html

http://majesticproducts.com/family/Stoves/Catalytic/DutchWest/
 
The flue exit height is 30". Not good with a 27" opening height.
From what I understand the legs are removable and a person I talked to on craigslist had his directly on the ground. Which I would think you would want some air gap between there but I guess it worked for him. I plan on fabbin some 3" legs and it will work out great height wise.
 
Or just cut the legs down. good luck
 
One thing I would check on is parts prices. Just prior to the CFM bankruptcy and sale of Vermont Castings to Monessen VC doubled a lot of their parts prices. On things like the refractory. I don't know if the new owners kept that pricing or not but I would check some of the current part prices.
 
From what I understand the legs are removable and a person I talked to on craigslist had his directly on the ground. Which I would think you would want some air gap between there but I guess it worked for him. I plan on fabbin some 3" legs and it will work out great height wise.

This might be ok if this was going into a masonry fireplace directly on the fireplace floor. But that's not the case. You have a ZC fireplace which means that you don't have 6 ft of foundation brick sitting under this thing. You have a hearth sitting on a wood floor. That's a combustible hearth.

Check the manual. It only allows no legs in a masonry fireplace. As far as I can tell it does not allow connection to a ZC fireplace even with the regular legs, though I might be comfortable with that if the hearth requirements were not compromised.
Fireplace Installations

You may install your Dutchwest Convection Heater in
an existing fireplace as a fireplace insert with no legs,*
or with the standard legs attached.
To install the heater without legs as a fireplace insert,
the floor must be completely noncombustible, such as
an unpainted concrete floor over earth.

Many fireplaces do not satisfy the “completely noncombustible”
requirement because the brick or concrete
hearth in front of the fireplace opening usually is
supported by heavy wooden framing as in Figure 13.
Because heat passes readily through brick or concrete,
it can easily pass through to the wood. As a result, such
fireplace hearths are considered a combustible floor.
You may not install a heater on a combustible
hearth without legs. Standard leg installations must
include the bottom heat shield. The floor protector
must also meet standard requirements for freestanding
installations.

Important: Failure to follow these installation instructions
may result in a dangerous situation, including a
chimney or house fire. Follow all instructions exactly,
and do not allow makeshift compromises to endanger
property and personal safety.
 
This might be ok if this was going into a masonry fireplace directly on the fireplace floor. But that's not the case. You have a ZC fireplace which means that you don't have 6 ft of foundation brick sitting under this thing. You have a hearth sitting on a wood floor. That's a combustible hearth.

Check the manual. It only allows no legs in a masonry fireplace. As far as I can tell it does not allow connection to a ZC fireplace even with the regular legs, though I might be comfortable with that if the hearth requirements were not compromised.
Fireplace Installations

You may install your Dutchwest Convection Heater in
an existing fireplace as a fireplace insert with no legs,*
or with the standard legs attached.
To install the heater without legs as a fireplace insert,
the floor must be completely noncombustible, such as
an unpainted concrete floor over earth.

Many fireplaces do not satisfy the “completely noncombustible”
requirement because the brick or concrete
hearth in front of the fireplace opening usually is
supported by heavy wooden framing as in Figure 13.
Because heat passes readily through brick or concrete,
it can easily pass through to the wood. As a result, such
fireplace hearths are considered a combustible floor.
You may not install a heater on a combustible
hearth without legs. Standard leg installations must
include the bottom heat shield. The floor protector
must also meet standard requirements for freestanding
installations.

Important: Failure to follow these installation instructions
may result in a dangerous situation, including a
chimney or house fire. Follow all instructions exactly,
and do not allow makeshift compromises to endanger
property and personal safety.

So you would not be comfortable with this setup even if I had the sheet metal on bottom and then the cement board nailed through that to the floor and then the ceramic tile mortared on top? Im not arguing with you on this, only want to be sure to install the safest setup I can and I appreciate your time and advice.
 
Correct, I would not be comfortable with this setup unless it was either in a full masonry fireplace or on a concrete slab on dirt.
 
Correct, I would not be comfortable with this setup unless it was either in a full masonry fireplace or on a concrete slab on dirt.
Well that being said anyone interested in this stove go for it. Thats a good reason to join hearth.com keeps you from potentially burnin your house down:ZZZ
 
I burned a very similar stove for about 20 years and I still celebrate the anniversary of the day I junked it and bought a Blaze King. Costs me a lot of money though.
 
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